Up early midst lightning and thunder. Picked up the Sunday paper, but as the storm was designated as extremely dangerous because of lightning strikes you did not deliver the paper to your neighbor because of the trees. Carol did so later. Read the paper, had breakfast plus Carol’s piece of cake, which she tasted and decided she did not like. Later today you both are going to Longhorn’s or Outback for a birthday dinner. Mid-morning and Carol is still reading the paper.
You were looking over your Belief-o-matic scores and are surprised by the order and percent of conviction of the top ten, mostly because after the top two you don’t feel your heart was really in it, the others you can see your mind working in those percentages. However, you don’t understand how the soul has any connection to any of the belief systems.
Last night you said I need to work on recognizing my soul orientation and earlier you said that in making my choices on the Belief-o-matic quiz required soulanheartanmind.
Why don’t you place the information Belief.com has condensed about each of the ten faiths and we can go from there. The focus is on “Belief in Deity” and how the heartansoulanmind relate to each of these faiths, keeping in mind you and I both see yourself as a raised Presbyterian converted internally by free will to a presently satisfied combination of Reform Judaism and Liberal Quaker. – Amorella.
Also, note that other criteria used by Belief.com besides Belief in Deity are Belief In: Incarnations: Origin of Universe and Life; After Death; Why Evil; Salvation; Undeserved Suffering; and Contemporary Issues such as abortion and homosexuality. For this exercise Belief in Deity will do. – Amorella.
1. Reform Jews (100%): Belief in Deity
Beliefs vary among adherents, including that of non-belief or questioning belief, and all are welcome and considered personal, but the official stance is that there is one God Almighty--Creator, all-powerful, ever-present, and all knowing--formless, incorporeal spirit.
2. Liberal Quakers (88%): Belief in Deity
Diverse beliefs, from belief in a personal God as an incorporeal spirit to questioning belief in a personal God.
3. Unitarian Universalism (84%): Belief in Deity
Very diverse beliefs--Unitarian/Universalists welcome all deity beliefs as well as non-theistic beliefs. Some congregations are formed for those who share a common belief, e.g. Christianity.
4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (82%): Belief in Deity
Trinity of the Father (God), the Son (Christ), and the Holy Spirit that comprises one God Almighty. Many believe God is incorporeal.
5. Sikhism (79%): Belief in Deity
God Almighty is impersonal, formless ultimate reality and He is the Creator, personal savior, inner teacher, omniscient, omnipotent, and incorporeal.
6. Baha’i Faith (79%): Belief in Deity
One personal God Almighty, creator, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent--incorporeal spirit.
7. Islam (75%): Belief in Deity
There exists only one personal God Almighty--Creator, all-powerful, ever-present, and all-knowing--formless, incorporeal spirit.
8. Orthodox Judaism (75%): Belief in Deity
There exists only one personal God Almighty--creator, all-powerful, ever-present, and all-knowing--formless, incorporeal spirit.
9. Neo-Pagan (68%): Belief in Deity
Some believe in a Supreme Being. Many believe in God and Goddess--a duality. Many believe there are countless spirit beings, gods and goddesses, in the cosmos and within all of nature--God is all and within all; all are one God. The Great Mother Earth, or Mother Nature, is highly worshipped. Divinity is immanent and may become manifest within anyone at any time through various methods.
10. Orthodox Quaker (65%): Belief in Deity
There is a Trinity of the Father (God), the Son (Christ), and the Holy Spirit that comprises one God Almighty. God is personal and incorporeal.
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First, in this case, you read over all ten and each part of your heartansoulanmind, has come to a general conclusion. Here are the results, you can comment after the fact. – Amorella.
Heart – The concept of G---D is in all ten, it only takes an open mind to accept this as a common concept for G---D. This is the most basic aspect of belief as far as spirituality goes. Why does it need to go further? People are entitled to their personal beliefs beyond this basic.
Mind – The basic concept of G---D appears reasonable and still open to interpretation. Dividing G---D into three separate sub-division is not much different that my placing three dashes between the G and D. Again, personal opinions, such as my own, are personal. Not everyone or anyone else need accept them from my perspective. If G---D exists and displays a sense of reason, SheanHe might accept this, I do not know. Leave it to be between G---D and the individual. This seems reasonable.
Soul – What is worth more? Compromise and Peace or Anger, Hatred and War.
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I am surprised at the soul’s brevity. I can’t help but think of Shakespeare, Hamlet and “Brevity is the soul of wit.” Lord Polonius is anything but brief and thus the humor of the passage is increased.
Lord Polonius:
This business is well ended.
My liege, and madam, to expostulate
What majesty should be, what duty is,
Why day is day, night night, and time is time,
Were nothing but to waste night, day and time.
Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief: your noble son is mad:
Mad call I it; for, to define true madness,
What is't but to be nothing else but mad?
But let that go.”
From Hamlet
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It is easy for me to let this go and think of the madness in terms of Peace or War. The quote, out of context, still fits quite well. Is that according to my soul or mind?
A mix of all three, boy. This is how it works, an inward compromise among three parts. Soul and mind go together and heart, in this case, goes along with it. Time for a break. Post. – Amorella.
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Early afternoon. You had a nap. Did a chore or two, and now you are ready to continue.
So, of the above, I could honestly say, “this is my opinion, but I don’t have my heart in it.”
No. It is not honest and people could easily misinterpret the comment to meaning, “I don’t really care.” In this case, this example, your heart decided to agree with the soul and mind. The heart was in the decision-making and you do care about the statement. From you it is an accurate statement though from others it is your opinion. In such a case one might call you a “true believer” concerning the comment, but from your perspective belief has little to do with it.
I don’t believe I have ever thought such a concept of communication between two people. This springs from my earlier analogy on the electric motor and soulanbodyanmindanheart.
Yes, that is the basis for this thinking.
For me this is a concept worth pursuing. It allows me to better understand my convictions and to better anticipate a response from someone else to my convictions.
Except convictions are based on belief and opinion. You, when heartansoulanmind agree form a statement about yourself. The problem is the word choice for clarity. You would substitute “statement” for “conviction”. – Amorella.
Does this mean that my first three books are statements as they are written from heartansoulanmind (although only you, Amorella, can verify this)?
Yes, it does. This is one of the reason you were not able to do any drastic revision (other than grammar and clarity). – Amorella.
I would have never considered such a thing. The irony of a fiction such as mine being a statement even though it is not fact.
That is what makes the books you, boy. Post, and let this settle. – Amorella.
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I don’t see there is that much difference between this and a belief.
A belief does not inwardly compromise. Not in here. The heart and mind might be in it, but the soul is by-passed. The soul may be brief but it has its importance. In some ways it is as a fuse, a protective devise and the reason, in these books, the heart and mind are enclosed with
in until a compromise is made. The Dead who are not shelled are compromised in the best possible light. Do you get this, boy, do you see how it works? Post. – Amorella.
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You each had a very good early dinner at Outback, ice tea, a salad, six ounce sirloin, salad, potato, and you split a piece of carrot cake for dessert. And, you found Outback is now open at eleven-thirty on Sundays so you don’t have to wait until three. Presently you are in front of Office Depot as Carol is buying a year’s worth of office supplies while they are back to school cheaper. As you are at VOA Centre the next stop is Kroger’s, then home. – Amorella.
We have a real routine. I wonder if other people do also. In some ways it is like the subconscious motor control, Carol and I obviously put ourselves on automatic and go from week to week. In some ways it reminds me of throwing a match away from a pack as a marker for every day and never striking a one of them for its actual use.
See, boy. That came from the mix even though you don’t like the outcome. – Amorella.
Now that we are at Kroger’s there is more time to go down through the ten list.
This is how it works from you as I, Amorella, see it within. You don’t have to agree, but after the fact, you do agree on the higher plausibility of coming to an inward conclusion based on your years of teaching logic.
I do. Once I saw these drawn out it is easy to accept where the problems fall. It reminds me of the article the other day where airplane spotters and chicken-sexers, the good ones, tried to teach others how to decide who is the enemy and whether the new born chick was male or female. It could not be taught in a traditional way. Trial and error, until the person finally figures it out – but like tying one’s shoe, it is hard to explain consciously.
1. Reform Jews (100%): Belief in Deity
Soul and Heart and Mind in a firm, settled unity.
2. Liberal Quakers (88%): Belief in Deity
Soul and Heart - and Mind compromises
3. Unitarian Universalism (84%): Belief in Deity
Heart and Soul – Mind compromises
4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (82%): Belief in Deity
Heart - Soul; Mind eventually compromises
5. Sikhism (79%): Belief in Deity
Soul – Heart; Mind eventually compromises
6. Baha’i Faith (79%): Belief in Deity
Heart and Soul – Mind compromises
7. Islam (75%): Belief in Deity
Mind - Soul and Heart compromise
8. Orthodox Judaism (75%): Belief in Deity
Soul - Mind and Heart compromise
9. Neo-Pagan (68%): Belief in Deity
Heart – Soul and Mind compromise
10. Orthodox Quaker (65%): Belief in Deity
Mind – Soul and Heart compromise
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All for today, orndorff. Post. – Amorella.
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