Notes - Capiche? / Pebble /

         Late morning. You wrote a thoughtful short note to Doug and also a separate one to Nathan and Lori on FB. Both deal with the injunction of heartansoulanmind (humanity) into the real world of life (survival) and death. How does one keep herorhis standard(s) of self-identity and yet grow at the same time? What are the human species' standards to kept, while at the same time allowing growth? That is your dual-question to yourself.

         This is similar to what Merlyn is contemplating as he begins to realize that having instilled a modern 'doorway' between the Living and the Dead-and-still-Living. He is the 'bridge' and does not wish to become a doormat or a troll-in-the-bridge in the process. Fortunately, he has already witnessed what prevents him becoming a doormat. The 'unresolved' (unbalanced heartansoulanmind) deadanliving entity cannot survive long in Merlyn's spiritually humane environs.

         I note that you did not write spiritually pure environs. Does this mean that Merlyn is, in a sense, unclean?

         Aha! "Unclean" is the wrong word here, boy. Unclean and being human do not co-exist and neither does clean and being human. Capiche? - Post. - Amorella

         1350 hours. We ran errands and had lunch at Smashburgers as we had a coupon for free sweet potato fries. Presently we are at the northern end of Pine Hill Lakes Park sitting on the east side of the fifty-foot wooded hill. I am ready to continue Dead-5 and move on through the chapter as Monday we will probably drive to Cleveland to pick up Jadah the cat. Earlier I did not expect the commentary on clean and unclean.

         It flies in the face of tradition? Is that what you are attempting to politely suggest? - Amorella

         Sometimes, Amorella I have the feeling that the story is not as important as your making a point.

         The points, as you say, belong in the story, boy. Define "clean" and "unclean". No, you don't need to do this literally. You are concerned for the ancient Jewish traditions here and want to be diplomatic. Ritualistic cultural behaviors are not the same thing as the heartansoulanmind. This is part of the confusion as I see it. - Amorella

         Judgments of good and evil are a part of the human spirit too. Are they cultural? Most cultures have a sense of what is right and wrong.

         Are we speaking legal or moral? - Amorella

         Sophocles' Antigone pops up. Respect for the Dead [and dead human being] takes precedent over the declared legal laws of the land.

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In Sophocles' version [of Antigone], both of Antigone's brothers are killed in battle against the state. After Oedipus' death, it was decided that the two brothers, Eteocles and Polynices were to reign over Thebes taking turns. Eteocles, however, did not want to give away his power causing Polynices to leave Thebes to set up an army. In the fight against Thebes, the two brothers kill each other. After this event, Creon declares that, as punishment, Polynices' body must be left on the plain outside the city to rot and be eaten by animals. Eteocles, on the other hand had been buried as tradition warranted. Antigone determines this to be unjust, immoral and against the laws of the gods, and is determined to bury her brother regardless of Creon's law.

From: Wikipedia Offline: Antigone

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         Keeping in context with Antigone, who then is more moral, Antigone or Creon? Who goes to Elysium and who goes to Tartarus? - Amorella

         Yes, really, that is what is on my mind but I did not know if I should phrase your comment as well as how I should phrase it.

         Too much politeness, boy. This fiction lends itself to an iron will and since you are too timid to take it, I will. - Amorella

         It is easier for you to make judgment as in my mind you are only partially human.

         I am not a human being, you are. - Amorella

         That is fine. I don't mind taking responsibility as long as the point (any point) is clearly stated and helps create the sense, the binding, if you will, of these Merlyn books.

         Accepted. Antigone and Creon go to Elysium as well as Polynices and Eteocles. - Amorella

         What of the traditions and moral laws of the culture? Don't they count for anything? Antigone gives up her life for what she believes.

         So does Creon. So did her brothers. - Amorella

         I am surprised Amorella. This does not seem right. (1436)

         In here, heartansoulanmind or the human spirit, if you will, is an attribute of higher consciousness. To borrow a phrase, one gives unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto G---D what is G---D's or again, what is the Piper's. - Amorella

         This is offensive.

         This doesn't 'appear' offensive; it is offensive, correct? And, who is making the judgment, a human being. What scope does a human being have to making such a judgment as to Elysium or Tartarus? - Amorella

         Alas, my pride wells up.

         That should tell you something, boy. - Amorella

         It tells me I should just shut up and read and study and consider the consequences of my thought and will.

         This is what Polynices, Eteocles, Antigone do in Sophocles' tragedy; they die [and shut up]. It is inferred that Creon, while living, doesn't feel like doing much talking himself. That's the way it plays in these fictional works too. - Amorella

         I think we are worth less than we think. We are the pebble in the sandal.

         Pebbles don't grow, boy, people do. Post. - Amorella