01 August 2013

Notes - Humiliating, ain't it / the 'speech' / 161 w. of Pouch 20


         Mid-morning. Presently it is partly sunny after yesterday's darker cloudy weather of scattered light rain if any. You want to work on Pouch 20, but first, let's put in Doug's last science reference yesterday.

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Dick, Physicists have been trying to to solve the equation of motion of the double pendulum for years. See above link of Eureka. Man is not long to be the main thinkers in the world I am afraid.
Doug
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'Eureka machine' puts scientists in the shade by working out laws of nature

The machine, which took only a few hours to come up with Newton's laws of motion, marks a turning point in the way science is done

Ian Sample, science correspondent
theguardian. Friday 3 April 2009 03.52 EDT

Scientists have created a "Eureka machine" that can work out the laws of nature by observing the world around it – a development that could dramatically speed up the discovery of new scientific truths.
The machine took only hours to come up with the basic laws of motion, a task that occupied Sir Isaac Newton for years after he was inspired by an apple falling from a tree.
Scientists at Cornell University in New York have already pointed the machine at baffling problems in biology and plan to use it to tackle questions in cosmology and social behaviour.
The work marks a turning point in the way science is done. Eureka moments, which supposedly began in Archimedes' bath more than 2,000 years ago, might soon be happening not in the minds of geniuses, but through the warm hum of electronic circuitry.
"We've reached a point in science where there's a lot of data to deal with. It's not Newton looking at an apple, or Galileo looking at heavenly bodies any more, it's more complex than that," said Hod Lipson, the computer engineer who led the project.
"This takes the grunt out of science by sifting through data and looking for the laws that govern how something behaves."
Details of the machine are described in the US Journal Science. The study appears alongside a report from scientists at the universities of Aberystwyth and Cambridge describing the first discovery of new scientific knowledge by a laboratory robot.
The robot, called Adam, devised and performed experiments to investigate the genetics of bakers' yeast. When scientists did their own experiments, they came to the same conclusions. Ross's team is already working on a second robot called Eve.
Together, the papers raise the question of how the role of scientists will change over the coming decades. For now, scientists believe the new technology will work alongside them rather than relegate them to technicians who tap in data and perform maintenance tasks, but leave the real thinking to the machines.
The Cornell machine uses a computer program that can search through huge amounts of data and look for underlying patterns. For example, a falling apple will abide by Newton's second law, which is often stated as F=ma, where F is the force acting on an object, m is its mass, and a is its acceleration. When fed information on the mass of the apple and its velocity as it falls, the machine would be able to work out the equation.
Lipson tested the machine by giving it information from basic lab experiments, such as swinging pendulums and tiny cars that moved up and down tracks on a cushion of air. After crunching through the data, the machine pinged and displayed several laws of motion and conservation of momentum.
The system runs its own checks to decide whether the laws it has found are likely to be interesting. In the pendulum test, for example, the tip of the pendulum is always the same distance from the pivot, but this does not shed any light on the underlying physics.
After proving that the machine worked, Lipson's team set it to work on the complex problem of metabolism in biological cells. The computer produced some equations, which the scientists are still trying to make sense of.
"It's like going to an oracle and asking what's going on. You are given an equation, but you need to work out what it means before you can understand what's really going on," said Lipson.
The team say they also plan to look at problems in cosmology and even social behaviour, which could reveal the underlying laws at play when people form social networks on the internet.
"The real test now is whether it can discover new laws of nature and I believe it will. There's no way forward in a lot of sciences without tools like this," Lipson said.

From The Guardian - Science, 2009

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         1032 hours. I have since last night checked online and found that not much has been done with Eureka since 2009. I found an article from 2012 that said there are problems in loading too much data. However, I would think that in 20,000 years something akin to this would be created. Last night I responded to Doug (his note above the article) thusly,

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Doug, 

Amazing! You are so right! Shoot, maybe Ship is a 'final solution' so to speak. Not for us though. Oops, poor choice of words. I meant Ship can be a culmination of Eureka, but humanized, so to speak, for a particular purpose -- safety for the crew and passengers at all times; a parceled out computer of choice for a particular job. Enough on the fiction.

In real life this could be a boon, right. Solving problems we did not know existed, just like the telescopes (of all kinds) that show us a reality we did not know existed. You know though, what about the octopus whose leg swam away. What if you had nine Eurekas, checks and balances double and triple checking equations and so forth until it had a sense of consciousness not one, built to ask questions and answer them and ask more questions. Then the humans could focus on the humanity of the questions and responses -- create not an 'all knowing like machine' (been done) but a quantum driven computer being as Socrates would be most awesome. A focus to make a list of (let's say, the three wisest decisions based on known variables within a set time. Then let the humans make the final decision. I am probably being too positive here, but I think it would be most cool. 

Dick

[Note sent to Doug last night]
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         The concept slides into Ship's capabilities and a short explanation can be given to the Earthlings along this narrative.

         1043 hours. These articles make me feel more at ease in terms of plausibility. I like the 'harder' core science following Asimov and his science fiction. The Foundation Trilogy, the original, made a strong impression on me. Clarke's Childhood's End did also, but I am more comfortable following Asimov in terms of developed concepts. If I remember correctly, hyperspace was a term coined by Asimov because he needed a method to get from one sector of the Milky Way Galaxy to another. Certainly it is not possible, and may never be, but mostly he followed scientific thinking. -- I just checked this and discovered (not for the first time) that I am incorrect:

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Hyperspace

Early depictions
Though the concept of hyperspace did not emerge until the 20th century, stories of an unseen realm outside of our normal world are part of earliest oral tradition. Some stories, before the development of the science fiction genre, feature space travel using a fictional existence outside of what humans normally observe. In "Somnium" (published 1634), Johannes Kepler tells of travel to the moon with the help of demons. From the 1930s through to the 1950s, many stories in the science fiction magazines, Amazing Stories and Astounding Science Fiction introduced readers to hyperspace as a fourth spatial dimension. John Campbell's "Islands of Space," which first appeared in Amazing Stories in 1931, features an early reference to hyperspace.
Writers of stories in magazines used the hyperspace concept in various ways. In The Mystery of Element 117 (1949) by Milton Smith, a window is opened into a new "hyperplane of hyperspace" containing those who have already died on earth. In Arthur C. Clarke's Technical Error (1950), a man is laterally reversed by a brief accidental encounter with "hyperspace".
Hyperspace travel became widespread in science fiction, because of the perceived limitations of FTL travel in ordinary space. In E.E. Smith's Gray Lensman (1939), a "5th order drive" allows travel to anywhere in the universe while hyperspace weapons are used to attack spaceships. In Nelson Bond's The Scientific Pioneer Returns (1940), the hyperspace concept is described. Isaac Asimov's Foundation Series, first published between 1942 and 1944 in Astounding, featured a Galactic Empire traversed through hyperspace. Asimov's short story Little Lost Robot (1947) features a "Hyperatomic Drive" shortened to "Hyperdrive" and observes that "fooling around with hyper-space isn't fun."
From Wikipedia - hyperspace (science fiction)

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         1103 hours. There you go. I was thinking of Asimov's "Hyperdrive" not Hyperspace. Just goes to show you how errors pile up in my head.

         And you jump to the thought of all those errors you must have given in your varied classes over the years. - Amorella

         There is nothing I can do about it now, but apologize to all those students for such transgressions. I feel bad about it but nothing I can remember was done with deception in mind.

         I concur, orndorff. Who you are now is basically who you were then. However, a mix of individual students might not agree. Such is life. Let it go, boy, or you will roll into false pride and arrogance unknowingly. Transgressions of any kind fall into human kind. Post. - Amorella

         This is very depressing to think on.

         Humiliating, ain't it, boy. - Amorella

         You know just the right word to turn me around with a dark humored smile. - rho


         1230 hours. I completed my exercises and this is a download I hoped I would never hear on either side of the Atlantic or Pacific as far at that goes:


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1 August 2013 Last updated at 02:25 ET

'WWIII Queen's speech' script revealed

In a Whitehall-written script, the Queen speaks of the "madness" of war

The Queen was expected to urge Britons to pray and remain united and resolute in the event of the "madness" of nuclear war, papers from 1983 show.

Although it was only a simulation, the text of the Queen's address - written as if broadcast at midday on Friday 4 March 1983 - seeks to prepare the country for the ordeal of World War III.
The script, which starts off by referring to the Queen's traditional Christmas address, reads: "The horrors of war could not have seemed more remote as my family and I shared our Christmas joy with the growing family of the Commonwealth.
"Now, this madness of war is once more spreading through the world and our brave country must again prepare itself to survive against great odds.

The speech includes a reference to Prince Andrew, then serving in the Royal Navy
"I have never forgotten the sorrow and the pride I felt as my sister and I huddled around the nursery wireless set listening to my father's [George VI's] inspiring words on that fateful day in 1939 [at the start of the World War II].
"Not for a single moment did I imagine that this solemn and awful duty would one day fall to me.
"But whatever terrors lie in wait for us all, the qualities that have helped to keep our freedom intact twice already during this sad century will once more be our strength."
Striking a personal note, the script continues: "My husband and I share with families up and down the land the fear we feel for sons and daughters, husbands and brothers who have left our side to serve their country.
"My beloved son Andrew is at this moment in action with his unit and we pray continually for his safety and for the safety of all servicemen and women at home and overseas.
"It is this close bond of family life that must be our greatest defence against the unknown.
"If families remain united and resolute, giving shelter to those living alone and unprotected, our country's will to survive cannot be broken."
The speech concludes by saying the Queen's message to the nation was "simple".
'New evil'
It adds: "As we strive together to fight off the new evil, let us pray for our country and men of goodwill wherever they may be. God Bless you all.
From BBC today
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         I am reminded of listening to those wonderful records "Here It Now." And, Kennedy's Cuban Missile Crisis speech. I have for most of my life felt our species is living on borrowed time. (1238)

         What a word choice. Where would 'one' borrow time from? How much interest would have to be paid, boy? - Amorella

         You pose a good couple of questions, Amorella.

         Carol just left for her luncheon. Time for lunch and watching this week's "Under the Dome". Later, dude. - Amorella


          You and Carol are in the far north lot at Pine Hill Lakes Park facing west in the shade of the big hill with woods on top. Carol is on page 284 of The Columbus Affair. You have no reason not to begin work on Pouch 20 other than you had your walk in the shade of the bottom trees below the earth dam and you are hot. Earlier, before noon, you did almost forty minutes of exercises and tomorrow or tonight you are going to mow the grass whether it needs it or not. - Amorella

         1532 hours. I might wait until Sunday morning since we will be leaving for Delaware mid-afternoon. "Under the Dome" is becoming more and more formulated every show. We do have expectations on the shows we see, if they are not met we stop watching.

         Late afternoon. the air is warm under the sun but fortunately the west trees have grown enough in more than twenty years that you have shade at the back of the house where it counts most; you also have a pleasant west flowing breeze of it you were in East Cleveland near the Lake. Thus, the windows stay up and the air stays off.

         2201 hours. I have 166 words of introduction from out of nowhere. I think I am just inventing.

         You do not consider me a part of this process? - Amorella

         I am stumbling with the words. I am no shaman dancing between worlds.

         You had left over pizza for supper while watching the national news and Tuesday night's "Rizzoli and Isles". For now drop in what you have, to remind you how it is when you are working on your own. - Amorella

         I knew it didn't seem right. When you are in my fingertips I am further within, perhaps where the soul might be.

         Here is what you are saying. The heart is my emotional self and the mind is my intellectual self, my soul is somewhere deeper where I go while you, the Amorella, work. Do you agree? - Amorella

         I guess I do, recognizing this is a simplification.

         Why would you go with your soul? You would leave your mind and heart for your soul? - Amorella

         Mind, heart and soul are figures of speech in this context. I figure the soul is further away from my conscious self than the mind and heart are so why not get as far away as possible to let you do your work, your setting up the words in an order to be written by my fingertips on the keys. That's how I see it. I am better off not interfering. I mistranslate and stumble on my thinking. In fewer words, you are less awkward with words than I am. This first paragraph shows my awkwardness. I keep thinking, 'there is too much stuff here, how can I put this together in 750 or so words.

         You said the word were "out of nowhere". Does that sound like you reaching for words or me lining them up for you? - Amorella

         I was not reaching. The words were being delivered.

         Add the paragraph and post. - Amorella

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Diplomatic Pouch 20, intro

         Blake and the phrase, "define the soul" tossed about in bed during the night. We say the soul is our essence, the embodiment of our individual selves. The soul is our mind as separate from our heart; but no, our mind is our reasoning, our consciousness, not our soul. Philosophies say our soul is our greater sense of duality, our immortal part. We are not gods. Besides the feminine pouch how is their Godofamily different from what many human equate with God, usually male. The Mother or the Father, what connotations are connected with each. They can know no more than we on such things were they a hundred thousand years ahead of us in their knowledge, society and technology? They are no wiser than we, otherwise they wouldn't have been stumbling around in our initial meetings. These alien people appear polite, kind, mannerly and thoughtful. We can be polite, kind, mannerly and thoughtful also. We can be . . .. Blake awoke immediately and fully.  

- 166 words

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