20 March 2014

Notes - Doug and then Amorella responds / 'easier' / percolating /

         Mid-morning. You have your exercises to do plus it will be a good day to clean up the garage. You did dust downstairs yesterday, but you have the bathroom floors to clean and upstairs dusting to do. Later, dude. – Amorella

         1038 hours. I checked my email and Doug sent a reply.

         Drop it in. I’ll make a comment, then you can think about it while you are doing your exercises. – Amorella

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Dick,

1)How can time and space have always been? Does that mean 'before' anything time and space were always there. 

I think the data is now telling us that time and space existed before the Big Bang. Did the universe always exist as an infinite structure I do not think the data says yet. But clearly time and space did exist before the Big Bang. Was that an infinite time? Time may tell! LOL  Yes, Amorella seems to be correct that something 'is' before the 'big bang' or whatever you want to call it

2) Now - in real life if the spirit does indeed survive death intact with mind, heart and soul then it would be plausible that something before physics exists or did - it may have also evolved (mirror-like) with physics. Is this plausible as a concept or is it too broad OR too narrow in scope? What do you think?  

This has always been a mystery as to whether the laws of physics are fixed in time or have evolved. As the universe as we currently understand it is infinite does that mean we live in a bigger fish bowl or an infinite ocean. Either way it is a mystery to me. Why does the universe follow the laws of physics? Where did these come from? Still seems to me that a creator is still needed to explain the unexplained. At least for now. I guess I would not be surprised to learn that the laws of physics did evolve.

3) Yes it is fun to think about what is going on and how we fit into the scheme of things.
Doug

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         Two points are important for the book. Doug agrees that ‘something’ is before the ‘big bang’; and the laws of physics may have evolved. A third is his use of “we live in a bigger fish bowl or an infinite ocean.” Bowl focuses on the container. Ocean still needs a container. What is the container (for the book) and what is a model of the pre-physics that causes it to ‘bud’ for the lack of a better word here. Note: as far are the books are concerned we are not dealing with the Creator, if that is the proper term and not by definition anthropomorphic. For the book we can say that if you need a Creator then we can go with an extension of the marsupial humanoid language/culture and say, “CreatorOfAllThingsBeforeandBeyond” and let it be. Post. - Amorella 


         1203 hours. Exercises done. Bathroom floors ready to wash once Carol leaves. It looks like a good day to clean out the garage too. I was thinking about it but for later in April. I should change the furnace filter also – a little Spring cleaning.

         It’s today boy. around one o’clock your time. – Amorella

         I thought it was yesterday.

         Shows where your mind is. Carol decided to sweep the bathroom floors first. – Amorella

         I don’t know why she does that. I am going to clean the floor anyway. But, hey. I’m tired of arguing about her ways of doing things.

         Let’s see, you’ve been a couple since 1966 and married since 1967 and you have been arguing about doing things her way for the last forty-eight years. – Amorella

         I’m tired of being angry about it.

         You have been angry about her doing her house cleaning her way for all this time? – Amorella

         1211 hours. Angry is not the right word, miffed is better. She does more work than she needs to do and sweeping the bathroom floor before cleaning it is a prime example. Why does she need to do more work when there is an easier way?

         Boy, if she wanted it easier she would have never married you. – Amorella

         Okay. I never thought of that. I don’t have anything else to say on the subject.

         Post. - Amorella

         Late afternoon. You are facing north on the far west side of Rose Hill Cemetery. You both took an abbreviated walk at Pine Hill because of the cold wind. This was after a Subway picnic over by the Little Miami. You just completed the chapter seven refurbishing and want to get on with the correcting and dropping in the final chapter seven before working on chapter eight. As you now feel more comfortable, as if you are being closer to the conclusion of GMG.One this way, it is fine with me. Whatever suits your fancy, right boy? – Amorella

         What you see is what you get, Amorella.

         Oddly perhaps, but if I were a real angel you would say the same thing. – Amorella

         I think the only way to be a true shade, as it were, is to be what and who one is. I’m being honest and respectful if not polite. Polite comes second with angels. I don’t like that I thought honest before respectful because in a real life situation respectful comes first. I have thought this through before. (1653)

         Indeed you have. – Amorella

         I’ll stock my ‘experience’ to poor mental wiring and imagination.

         You had your doubts upon an angelic like vision orndorff. One would think that if one truly saw an angel for what it was one would ‘know’ or ‘understand’. This reminds you of what you posted from Plato on Wikipedia Offline the other day.

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In several dialogues, Socrates floats the idea that knowledge is a matter of recollection, and not of learning, observation, or study. He maintains this view somewhat at his own expense, because in many dialogues, Socrates complains of his forgetfulness. Socrates is often found arguing that knowledge is not empirical, and that it comes from divine insight. In many middle period dialogues, such as the Phaedo, Republic and Phaedrus Plato advocates a belief in the immortality of the soul, and several dialogues end with long speeches imagining the afterlife. More than one dialogue contrasts knowledge and opinion, perception and reality, nature and custom, and body and soul.
Wikipedia Offline - Plato
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Plato advocates belief the immortality of the soul. Socrates suggests that knowledge is a matter of recollection. Perhaps you can do a little ‘recollection’ yourself via self-hypnosis. You are more likely to call it intuitive imagination mixed (hopefully) with insight. What do you think? – Amorella

         1748 hours. I’ll think about it. I would have to set up the approach and it might be better to by actually hypnotized by somebody who knows what she or he is doing. What comes to mind is that experience with the thin tree-bark-skinned aliens before I was born. Dr. Payne and I both agreed it was fanciful but he did say this is the way the mind works – interpretation of perhaps a real or imagined event. You think of it as no different than some dreams people naturally have. And, there is a truth to it. Some of most dreams are no doubt recollections put to the mind’s devices especially an emotional state such as love or fear or foreboding or adventure. Fear is not one of my states in relationship to percolating some creative thinking.

         You are home. Post. - Amorella

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