15 January 2018

Notes - not coming out / cat's pajamas / doubts




         1101 hours. Amorella, in reference to the conclusion of yesterday's post; I am glad you think the heartansoulanmind, the invisible, remains after the physical is gone, that that is the way it is in the 'encounters-in-mind' blog, but how it is in basically black lined symbolizing two dimensional space, makes little difference as far as I can see. It sounds romanticized and somewhat tra-lee-lay - a fantasy covering for a life after death scenario. This is nothing more than an inter-communication between two sense of consciousness’s -- heartansoulanmind and physical subjective and objective reality.

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from: Quora dot com: "What do most scientists believe happens after death?"

. . . The same thing is true with the object of our inquiry – the so-called objective reality of the world. We think it is something distinct from our consciousness, but in fact it is only the object of our consciousness. It is our consciousness. That’s the hardest thing to understand and a basic obstacle for us and for science. Now a number of scientists are beginning to understand this concept. The British astronomer, Sir Eddington, said that on the unknown shore we have discovered footprints of unknown people, and we want to know who has been there before us. We come, inquire and investigate, and we find that they are our own footprints.

The world outside is our consciousness, is us. It is not something separate and distinct. The object and the subject of perception inter-are. Without subject, there is no object; without object, there is no subject. They manifest at the same time. To see means to see something. The seer does not exist separately from the seen; they manifest at the same time. If you imagine that the seer is independent and goes out in order to see the seen, that is a mistaken perception.

The Nature of Consciousness

Consciousness is always consciousness of something, and consciousness only lasts a millisecond. Consciousness is like an elementary particle, like an electron; its nature is non-local. Nonlocality is a word used by scientists about time in quantum physics. An elementary particle can be everywhere at the same time. We think that one thing cannot be several places at once, but scientists have agreed that an elementary particle – an electron – can be both here and there at the same time. It can be both this and that at the same time. It can be you, it can be me.

Many philosophers and scientists have said that the nature of consciousness has a cinematographic nature. A film is made up of separate pictures that last only a fraction of a second. Consciousness is like that, it just lasts one millisecond. Then, because moments of consciousness succeed each other continuously, you have the impression that consciousness is something that lasts. But the notion of a permanent consciousness is illusion, not reality.

Consciousness is only a flash.

It’s like a flame on the tip of a candle. You think there is one flame, but really there is a succession of millions of flames, one after the other, that give the impression that it is only one flame. The flame of this moment gives rise to the flame of the next moment, and the flame of the next moment gives rise to the flame of the next moment. Things exist only in one millisecond. . . .

Selected from: Quora dot com: "What do most scientists believe happens after death?"

By: Bieu Huynh, studied at Nha Trang, Vietnam (1974)

[Here is an opinion from Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh on the last Dharma talk, in which he discussed the Buddhist approach.] . . .

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         1124 hours. The blog is set up to give a running commentary between my supposedly heartansoulanmind consciousness and the Amorella, a separate sense of spiritual-like consciousness. The blog is a digital objective reality focusing on two separate-like consciousness's - in this sense the blog is nonfiction, but the two characterizations, a spiritual-like heartansoulanmind and a spiritual-like entity self-named 'the Amorella' are, from my perspective, a mixture of reality and self-projecting reasonable-like imagination. (1132)

         That's the reason, young man, why I state: "That's the way it is in here." - Amorella

         1134 hours. Somehow today's bit of 'inter'-communication is not coming out the way I wanted.

         Post. - Amorella



         1142 hours. You are "in here" meaning in the blog?

         Yes, of course, a reality to be sure. - Amorella

         1143 hours. But you are also "in here" meaning in my head?

         Of course I am in your head, if I weren't in your head how could I be in the blog? - Amorella

         1144 hour. Where were you, Amorella, before you were in my head?

         Where were you before I, the Amorella, was in your head? You tell me where you were and I will tell you where I was.

         1149 hours. Well, if this isn't the cat's pajamas [as people used to say - why it popped in mind I cannot say].


         Post. - Amorella


         2052 hours. Amorella, I am here living on Earth. This where I have been since 6 August 1942. Psychologically, you may have been in my head and under development since that time too, i.e. you are an invention from my imagination. I can accept that. My problem is that I feel that with G-D all things are possible, but probability lowers the likelihood. This is an endless debate that can never be resolved. I don't know why I return to it from time to time, but I do.


         You do because you have doubts. Let it go at that. Post. - Amorella

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