09 November 2013

Notes - the beach and Clearwater / no numbers and counting angels too

         Mid-afternoon. Kim, Paul, Owen, Brennan, Carol and you had a leisurely breakfast at Mama’s Kitchen II on Seminole Avenue before you drove over to the airport with them to wish them goodbye. They should be home from the airport by now with most everything back to normal. You had a nap while Carol did three loads of bedding and clothes so everything is caught up and Owen and Brennan’s beachwear can be folded and packed up and stored until you leave next weekend. Paul even packed some of the major kid stuff in the trunk so you are ready to go. Tomorrow Linda is coming over, perhaps with Jen and Jean and the five of you are heading down to Crab Shack II for lunch after shopping at the nearby outlet mall near SR 301 and I-75.

         About fifteen minutes ago while you and Carol were in the living room a young lady with husband and a three or four year-old daughter decided she didn’t want to wear her wet bikini while sunbathing so she took it off, top first to put on a dry top then bottom for another piece of dry clothing. You are surprised how quickly you noticed the whole operation. – Amorella

         1436 hours. Thanks for reminding me, Amorella. Kim just called a couple of minutes ago saying they were stopping near home to get something to eat. She said they had a very good flight plus the boys slept most of the way, which was not expected but quickly accepted as a nice blessing for the afternoon.

         That’s how you should accept the surprise of the day, boy, a quick unannounced blessing that though you are seventy-one and still have some young male in you. - Amorella

         1441 hours. I am more comfortable with your dark humor, Amorella.

         The clouds are mostly broken up with an eighty-degree or so air temperature. Once this next load of clothes is done you are going for a ride north on Gulf Boulevard to Clearwater and return before sunset. Later, dude. Post. – Amorella

         1702 hours. I forgot to post. We took our tour to Clearwater and back, pleasant until we arrived at Clearwater Beach where the roads were congested with tourists and Saturday traffic. On the way back I realized the ‘eco’ button was not ‘on’ so I don’t know how the affected the gas mileage. The gauge says it is 36.2; it should be 37 or 38. Oh well, it’s fixed now. We are at the McD’s at Madeira Beach by the water. Nice place to sit and relax before heading back for the sunset. More cloud cover now though so it is doubtful I’ll get a colorful shot. One never knows though.


A Few Minutes Before Sunset 9 November 13

         2049 hours. A return to Thinking in Numbers by Daniel Tammet and I found on page 26:

“In his Metaphysics, Aristotle shows that counting requires some prior understanding of what ‘one’ is. To count five, or ten or twenty-three birds, we must first identify one bird, an idea of ‘bird’ that can apply to every possible kind. But such abstractions are entirely foreign to the [Pirahã/Amazon] tribe.”

         You are perplexed as how to explain this in terms of what ‘one’ is in terms of The Place of the Dead or Elysium or HeavenOrHellBothOrNeither in the Merlyn books. This is a ‘Place’ but there nothing relative to where it is. The same is true of the ‘one’ heartansoulanmind. It appears to be a ‘bundled’ one but what is the difference between ‘bundled’ and ‘banded’. You see this as similar to the problem the Pirahã Tribe faces when they do not have the concept of counting in their culture. Here is what you found online tonight. - Amorella

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SLATE: “What Happens When A Language Has No Numbers?”
By Mike Vuolo

The Pirahã are an indigenous people, numbering around 700, living along the banks of the Maici River in the jungle of northwest Brazil. Their language, also called Pirahã, is so unusual in so many ways that it was profiled in 2007 in a 12,000-word piece in the New Yorker by John Colapinto, who wrote:
Unrelated to any other extant tongue, and based on just eight consonants and three vowels, Pirahã has one of the simplest sound systems known. Yet it possesses such a complex array of tones, stresses, and syllable lengths that its speakers can dispense with their vowels and consonants altogether and sing, hum, or whistle conversations.

Among Pirahã's many peculiarities is an almost complete lack of numeracy, an extremely rare linguistic trait of which there are only a few documented cases. The language contains no words at all for discrete numbers and only three that approximate some notion of quantity—hói, a "small size or amount," hoí, a "somewhat larger size or amount," and baágiso, which can mean either to "cause to come together" or "a bunch."

From: http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2013/10/16/piraha_cognitive_anumeracy_in_a_language_without_numbers.html

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         2118 hours. I cannot help thinking of the old adage of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Lo and behold I just checked online and discovered this at ‘Improbable Research’:

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Quantum Gravity Treatment of the Angel Density Problem
by Anders Sandberg 
SANS/NADA, Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

[EDITOR'S NOTE: we apologize for the lack of clear formatting,in this web version, of the mathematical formulae.]
Abstract

We derive upper bounds for the density of angels dancing on the point of a pin. It is dependent on the assumed mass of the angels, with a maximum number of 8.6766*10exp49 angels at the critical angel mass (3.8807*10exp-34 kg).

Ancient Question, Modern Physics

"How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" has been a major theological question since the Middle Ages.[5]
According to Thomas Aquinas, it is impossible for two distinct causes to each be the immediate cause of one and the same thing. An angel is a good example of such a cause. Thus two angels cannot occupy the same space.[2] This can be seen as an early statement of the Pauli exclusion principle. (The Pauli exclusion principle is a pillar of modern physics. It was first stated in the twentieth century, by Pauli.)
However, this does not place any upper bound on the density of angels in a small area, because the size r of angels remains undefined and could possibly be arbitrarily small. There have also been theological criticisms of any assumption of angels as complete causes.
Stating the Question Correctly

The basic issue is the maximal density of active angels in a small volume. It should be noted that the original formulation of the problem did not refer to the head of a pin (R�1 mm) but to the point of the pin. Therefore, the point, not the head, of the pin is the region that will be studied in this paper.
One of the first reported attempts at a quantum gravity treatment of the angel density problem that also included the correct end of the pin was made by Dr. Phil Schewe. He suggested that due to quantum gravity space is likely not infinitely divisible beyond the Planck length scale of 10exp-35 meters. Hence, assuming the point of the pin to be one Ångström across (the size of a scanning tunnelling microscope tip) this would produce a maximal number of angels on the order of 1050 since they would not have more places to fill.[1]
While this approach does produce an upper bound on the possible density of angels, it is based on the Thomist assumption of non-overlap.
Since angels can be presumed to obey quantum rules when packed at quantum gravity densities, the uncertainty relation will cause their wave functions to overlap significantly even if there is a strong degeneracy pressure. If the non-overlap assumption is relaxed, this approach cannot derive an upper bound.
- See more at: http://www.improbable.com/airchives/paperair/volume7/v7i3/angels-7-3.htm#sthash.oNsWV6eq.dpuf

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         Here is what I found at Science Q and A (New York Times, November 11, 1997):

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Dancing Angels
By C. CLAIBORNE RAY

. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?
. Medieval theologian-philosophers tried to calculate that incalculable number based on the notion that angels were the smallest possible physical creatures, though with very large spiritual powers. Based on that same definition of size, a modern physicist actually made a calculation for an even smaller dance floor: the number of hypothetical angels that could dance on the point of a pin.
The calculation was offered in 1995 by Dr. Phil Schewe, spokesman for the American Institute of Physics. He presented his idea at a meeting of the Society for Literature and Science.
For the smallest possible angelic size, Schewe relied on an idea drawn from superstring physics that space itself is not infinitely divisible, but breaks down at a distance scale of 10 to the -35 meters.
For the size of a pin point, he took the tip of the IBM scanning tunneling microscope, the one that arranged 35 xenon atoms in the shape of the letters IBM. The tip tapers down to a single atom.
"So it was really an easy calculation," Schewe concluded. "The point is, say, an angstrom across, so you divide something that's 10 to the minus 10th power meters by something that's 10 to the minus 35th power, so the answer is 10 to the 25th power angels can fit on the point of a pin."

From: http://www.nytimes.com/learning/students/scienceqa/archive/971111.html

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         You have made your point, orndorff. This is the kind of stuff you love to think on. And, of course, to you, there is a darker humor that slides along the alphabetic lettering in matter what the written language. Post. Enough for tonight, boy. - Amorella


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