Notes - privacy / Grandma 6 completed / setting up Pouch 6

         0726 hours. I am pleased to announce is wearing a little thin on me. Time to take down the announcement. “Decorum suggests its time to lower this placard. Thank you again for your response. – rho”  -- I don’t remember what I said but I did delete the book announcement on Facebook. Enough is enough. I also deleted the announcement on Linked In and I am feeling more comfortable already.

         You enjoy your privacy more than most anything in the world. This is who you are. Later, my man. Post. - Amorella

         0912 hours. I closed my eyes with my fingers on the keyboard of my MacAir. Nothing transpires. I am ready for a nap.

         You had an hour or so nap then did your forty-minute exercises. You want to focus on Grandma 6 today figuring it will take some time to cut as it is 2317 words.

         1154 hours. I see I missed yesterday’s low fuel price. It was 3.08⁹ yesterday now it is up to 3.39⁹. I need to fill up the hybrid to have a fix on the cost of the Ontario trip. I should have done this yesterday. We did fill up the Honda though so that was good; it cost 2.88⁹ a gallon with Kroger’s discount.

         You had lunch at the Street Italian; you decided you are done with their pasta for a while. Afterwards you ran a couple errands into Montgomery. Presently you are at the far north shaded side of the lot while Carol is taking her walk. Go ahead with Grandma 6. – Amorella

         1629 hours. I finished Grandma 6 in 799 words. I hope it makes sense. Most readers would not know about the theological problem between the Greek and Latin churches in 1066 but I can easily imagine it being important to those knowledgeable. Here is the problem among some of the English and Scots in those days -- 'Filioque'.

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Filioque, Latin for "and (from) the Son", is a phrase found in the form of Nicene Creed in use in the Latin Church. It is not present in the Greek text of the Nicene Creed as originally formulated at the First Council of Constantinople, which says only that the Holy Spirit proceeds "from the Father":

Καὶ εἰς τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ Ἅγιον, τὸ κύριον, τὸ ζωοποιόν, τὸ ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἐκπορευόμενον

(And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, from the Father proceeding).

The Latin text speaks of the Holy Spirit as proceeding "from the Father and the Son".

Et in Spiritum Sanctum, Dominum, et vivificantem: qui ex Patre 'Filioque procedit

(And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, and giver of life, who from the Father and the Son proceeds).

Together with papal primacy, differences over this doctrine have been and remain the primary causes of schism between the Western and Eastern Orthodox churches. The Filioque has been an ongoing source of conflict between the East and West, contributing, in part, to the East-West Schism of 1054 and proving an obstacle to attempts to reunify the two sides.

The Nicene Creed

The ecumenical council, that of Nicaea (325) ended its Creed with the words "and in the Holy Spirit". The second, that of Constantinople in 381 spoke of the Holy Spirit as "proceeding from the Father"

(ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἐκπορευόμενον). This last phrase is based on (ὃ παρὰ τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκπορεύεται).

The third ecumenical council, held at Ephesus in 431, which quoted the creed in its 325 form, not in that of 381, decreed in its seventh canon:

While the Council of Ephesus thus forbade setting up a different creed as a rival to that of the first ecumenical council, it was the creed of the second ecumenical council that was adopted liturgically in the East and later a Latin variant was adopted in the West. The form of this creed that the West adopted had two additions: "God from God" (Deum de Deo) and "and the Son" (Filioque).

The fourth ecumenical council, that of Chalacedon (451), quoted the creed of 381 and formally treated it as binding, together with that of 325. Within 80 years, therefore, the creed of 381 was normative in defining the Christian faith. In the early sixth century, it was widely used in the liturgy in the East and at the end of the same century in parts of the West, perhaps beginning with the Council of Toledo in 589.

Summary

The Filioque was originally proposed to stress more clearly the connection between the Son and the Spirit, amid a heresy in which the Son was taken as less than the Father because he does not serve as a source of the Holy Spirit. When the Filioque came into use in Spain and Gaul in the West, the local churches were not aware that their language of procession would not translate well back into the Greek. Conversely, from Photius to the Council of Florence, the Greek Fathers were also not acquainted with the linguistic issues.

While the Filioque doctrine was traditional in the West, being declared dogmatically in 447 by Pope Leo I, the Pope whose Tome was approved at the Council of Chalcedon, its inclusion in the Creed appeared in the anti-Arian situation of seventh-century Spain. However this dogma was never accepted in the East. The Filioque, included in the Creed by certain anti-Arian councils in Spain, was a means to affirm the full divinity of the Son in relation to both the Father and the Spirit.

Ironically, a similar anti-Arian emphasis also strongly influenced the development of the liturgy in the East, for example, in promoting prayer to "Christ Our God", an expression which also came to find a place in the West, where, largely as a result of "the Church's reaction to Teutonic Arianism", "'Christ our God' ... gradually assumes precedence over 'Christ our brother'". In this case, a common adversary, namely, Arianism, had profound, far-reaching effects, in the orthodox reaction in both East and West.

Church politics, authority conflicts, ethnic hostility, linguistic misunderstanding, personal rivalry, forced conversions, large scale wars, political intrigue, unfilled promises and secular motives all combined in various ways to divide East and West.

As regards the doctrine expressed by the phrase in Latin (in which the word "procedit" that is linked with "Filioque" does not have exactly the same meaning and overtones as the word used in Greek), any declaration by the West that it is heretical (something that not all Orthodox now insist on) would conflict with the Western doctrine of the infallibility of the Church, since it has been upheld by Councils recognized by the Roman Catholic Church as ecumenical and even by those Popes who, like Leo III, opposed insertion of the word into the Creed.

Selected and edited from Wikipedia Offline - Filioque

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         In my estimation this shows how (and with a little thought) why times have changed. The point needs to be included. This shows several segments of our species’ nature.

         You cantankerousness here goes back to The Apostle’s Creed and your false oath in its belief while joining the First Presbyterian Church in Westerville, Ohio at the age of twelve.

         1956 hours. Never again will I be caught in such a trap of my own making. I hadn’t really thought out my predicament in advance. It was a grave personal error.

         You have dwelled on this several times in the blog over the years. Post. - Amorella

         2031 hours. I have cut the words in Pouch 6 from 2194 to 1361. This will be the first segment from Home Planets One. I should probably limit this to Director Kembel and focus on the governmental set up.

          I agree. However, it would be better to include two more names. The only three officials we will be dealing with by name from this and the next book. – Amorella

         One will have to be from health and welfare and the other a machine like Ship.

         A machine like Ship will be one and the other will be a Priestess, a member of the Clerics. – Amorella

         A shaman?

         It is Merlyn’s dream not yours, boy. – Amorella

         2044 hours. We will have to make one up. I have not thought from this direction.

         You are not Merlyn. – Amorella

         2045 hours. It makes sense in that the Cleric are intuitive rather than scientific. Merlyn would lean towards a Druidess-like marsupial humanoid. The machine is reason personified. 

         No, the machine is not, it is human-like and must deal with the forces of the heart as well as the head. Both species are built with heartsansoulsanminds. This is a given. First, what do they anticipate? What does Kembel know about the machinery’s secret directives dealing with time, place and space? What about the safety backups? Does the planet that takes the earthlings have time to evacuate the entire planet before a plague may be unleashed? Running is instinctively their primary defense. – Amorella

         2052 hours. This is going to take some planning but I like it. What a challenge and in less than 800 words no less. This is going to be a fun assignment.

         Something to think on. Post. - Amorella