24 May 2016

Timelessness or Time / the Milesians



        A bit after noon local time. Tomorrow, it turns out, work begins on the hall bath. You are waiting for Carol to complete the bills so you can take them in the post office and do a couple other errands at the same time. You have been thinking about the meaning of ‘the difference between IS and EXISTING in terms of Greater Reality than the terms Physical as a contrast to Spiritual. Later. – Amorella

       You had a Penn Station shared lunch and Carol is walking in the community center because of the sunlight (too much chance of skin cancer). You have the car in the far section of the lot parked cater-cornered so that neither side windows are getting direct sunlight. The back window has the strongest UV protection. – Amorella

       1351 hours. I cannot remember a time in my life that my perceptions of reality were congruent with most everyone else’s that I have known personally. I have mentioned examples of this within these several years of ‘Notes’ on the blog. Doug (knowledge and concepts) and quantum mechanics in general takes care of the smallest particles. We do not know things at the depths of particle fragmentation or integration – the building blocks of the known building blocks of matter. Within ourselves we know our composition as physical creatures but not as spiritual creatures. What makes us spiritually oriented? Imagination comes to mind first. We calculate from personal perspective and then from the perspective of those who surround us – this embodies knowledge, wisdom and more imagination as well as conjecture and happenstance. Ignorance plays a major part too because there are times in our lives that we don’t know any better. I am going to feign arrogance here and say the difference (in context) between IS and EXISTING is that we don’t know any better. One reason for this ignorance is because we don’t have the vocabulary to express between Timelessness and Time except to say that supposedly Timelessness has no gravity, that it is only with gravity that Time as a human perception exists (the gravity in thought v. gravity in physics?). This is where ignorance is helpful. I simply don’t have much to ponder against such a concept because I don’t know any better. These are my (mostly internal) personal observations and certainly they not necessarily the observations of others. (1410)

       Following, your mind moves about to Heinlein’s Stranger and a Strange Land and character Michael Smith’s Martian word, ‘Grok’.- Amorella

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Influence

Like many influential works of literature, Stranger made a contribution to the English language: specifically, the word "grok". In Heinlein's invented Martian language, "grok" literally means "to drink" and figuratively means "to comprehend", "to love", and "to be one with". One dictionary description was "To understand thoroughly through having empathy with". This word rapidly became common parlance among science fiction fans, hippies, and computer hackers, and has since entered the Oxford English Dictionary among others.

Selected and edited from Wikipedia Offline – Stranger in a Strange Land

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        1427 hours. I’m taking a break before I forget where I am going with this.

       You would like me to help you here, as an imaginary-or-not writing persona, in distinguishing between Timelessness and Time from the Amorella’s perspective. This is where you were going whether you realized it or not. Later, dude.

       You are home. Carol called from home because her phone was out of electric so she walked home. She didn’t know where you were in the lot or if you were in the lot because you said you were going to look for shade as she left the car. – Amorella

       1504 hours. I feel bad about it; she is up taking a cool shower presently and will put on lotion to sooth her skin. I took her a cookie and a large glass of ice water and left it on the sink.

       Post. - Amorella

       Evening. You have been writing to Doug this evening on ‘is’ and ‘existence’ and other things. Suddenly, in your last note to him you brought Anaximenes and hot, cold, wet and dry. The discussion reminded you of your major focus in a graduate class in philosophy at Bowling Green State University. You had to teach a class on the three Milesian philosophers and here they are from Wikipedia Offline.

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Thales of Miletus (c. 624 – c. 546 BC) was a pre-Socratic Greek philosopher, mathematician and astronomer from Miletus in Asia Minor, current day Milet in Turkey and one of the Seven Sages of Greece. Many, most notably Aristotle, regard him as the first philosopher in the Greek tradition. Aristotle reported Thales' hypothesis that the originating principle of nature and the nature of matte was a single material substance: water.

Thales attempted to explain natural phenomena without reference to mythology. Almost all of the other Pre-Socratic philosophers follow him in attempting to provide an explanation of ultimate substance, change, and the existence of the world without reference to mythology.

In mathematics, Thales used geometry to calculate the heights of pyramids and the distance of ships from the shore. He is the first known individual to use deductive reasoning applied to geometry, by deriving four corollaries to Thales’ Theorem. He is the first known individual to whom a mathematical discovery has been attributed.


Anaximander (c. 610 – c. 546 B lived in Miletus, a city of Ionia (in modern-day Turkey). He belonged to the Milesian school and learned the teachings of his master Thales. He succeeded Thales and became the second master of that school where he counted Anaximenes and, arguably, Pythagoras amongst his pupils.

Little of his life and work is known today. According to available historical documents, he is the first philosopher known to have written down his studies, although only one fragment of his work remains. Fragmentary testimonies found in documents after his death provide a portrait of the man.

He was an early proponent of science and tried to observe and explain different aspects of the universe, with a particular interest in its origins, claiming that nature is ruled by laws, just like human societies, and anything that disturbs the balance of nature does not last long. Like many thinkers of his time, Anaximander's contributions to philosophy relate to many disciplines. In astronomy, he tried to describe the mechanics of celestial bodies in relation to the Earth. In physics, his postulation that the indefinite (or apeiron) was the source of all things led Greek philosophy to a new level of conceptual abstraction. His knowledge of geometry allowed him to introduce the gnomon in Greece. He created a map of the world that contributed greatly to the advancement of geography. He was also involved in the politics of Miletus and was sent as a leader to one of its colonies.


Anaximenes of Miletus (c. 585 – c. 528 BCE) was active in the latter half of the 6th century BC. One of the three Milesian philosophers, he is identified as a younger friend or student of Anaximander. Anaximenes, like others in his school of thought, practiced material monism. This tendency to identify one specific underlying reality made up of a material thing is what Anaximenes is principally known for today.

Selected and edited from Wikipedia Offline

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       2159 hours. I volunteered to teach this lesson and I tried to teach as I thought they might have, by demonstration. No one laughed, as I was the first in the class to give a lesson. I’m sure they were far from impressed because I was ignorant of how one conducted one’s self in a 500 + Philosophy course. I attempted to teach the lessons as if they were twelve or fifteen year olds because that is who I had been teaching for three years. I got a B in the class anyway. I’m sure the teacher was dumbfounded. All the other presentations were for twenty to thirty year old students. Anyway, I have and had a great admiration for their individual thinking with one student building on another student. Very cool. [I probably mentioned all this several years ago on another blog page. Sorry. Old age is creeping in like a flood no doubt.]

       Post, orndorff. Glad you had a little trip down memory lane here. - Amorella


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