Morning. You are facing west in a north Rose Hill 'alley' while Carol is
walking. Jill had not yet arrived. The day is pleasant, partly cloudy with a
temperature of seventy-seven. While reading Quora you found this, and although
you said you were done with 'consciousness' review this is a different
perspective.
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From Your Quora Digest ·
Physics
Is consciousness really a state of
matter? How does one explain it in terms of quantum physics mechanics?
Jess H. Brewer,
Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Univ. of British
Columbia
Answered May 11 ·
Upvoted by Mike Nightingale, MPhys
Physics & Astrophysics, University of Exeter (2019)
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At the moment, I don’t believe we can “explain” consciousness at
all; we haven’t even been able to define satisfactorily what it is.
However, some folks are making heroic efforts — and I think they
will have a pretty good idea within a few more decades. Penrose
notwithstanding, I doubt that quantum mechanics plays an essential role. We
shall (probably) see.
In any case, I wouldn’t call it a “state” of matter; it seems
more of an emergent property of a sufficiently complex neural network.
Even if these relatively metaphysical questions are never
satisfactorily answered, we had better start thinking of how we will treat
an artificial neural network that reaches the necessary complexity and starts claiming
to have consciousness.
Some are bound to declare it the work of Satan and make every
effort to destroy it. Others will see a golden opportunity to build their own
race of slaves. Hopefully a majority will apply the Golden Rule instead. Decide
soon which side you will be on.
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1041 hours.
I really like the line: "[consciousness] seems more
of an emergent property of a sufficiently complex neural
network." Time for dictionary definition."
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emergent - adjective - Philosophy (of a property)
arising as an effect of complex causes and not analyzable simply as the sum of their effects: one such emergent
property is the ability, already described, of an established ecosystem to
repel an invading species.
property - noun - characteristic of something: the property of heat to
expand metal at uniform rates.
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Carol is home changing and you are waiting
in the driveway with the air conditioning on. -- After a half hour or so wait
you went to lunch at Chipotle/Panera, Kroger's for your drugs and other
essentials, now you are at Natorps' once again searching for a particular red
tropical flower for the front yard. The temperature is eighty-four and quite
warm so you are keeping the air conditioning on; you are not pleased but it
cuts down on gas mileage. - Amorella
1340 hours. This is a busy place. It is interesting that most of the
cars in the lot are not only clean (free of dirt), they are also fairly new
(less than three or four years old)I do not see a pickup truck from where I sit
-- these are sedans or medium sized SUV's. Wow. There is a yellow Chrysler
Crossfire. A couple of days ago we saw a restored white 1936 Cord 810/812
without top. Most awesome. Carol saw it and we turned around as soon as we
could to inspect it. It was in the lot where are local Penn Station is. Jay Leno
owns one of these cars, or did. Nothing like a beautiful Spring day to see an
immaculate classic sports or sporty car of any denomination. Wow. A breath of
fresh air in the mind.
The plant is setting on the front porch.
Carol talked to the neighbor down the street and now you are presently at Rose
Hill facing west leaning more towards the southwest end of the cemetery under a
mature silver maple providing full shade. - Amorella
1438 hours. The tree is similar in kind and size of one in Grandma Schick's
front yard on Schryer Place in Clintonville. When I was ten or eleven I would
climb it for something to do -- not always easy as the bottom limbs, although
thick, were higher up. (Cathy and Gretchen who were playing with cousin Marilyn
took my big bushes fort at the back of the house).
Why did you call it a fort? All you did was
sit in the middle of two large bushes and watch out between the leaves -- it
was hardly a fort. - Amorella
1449 hours. It was my mighty fortress of a secret and sacred place of
quiet without the disturbance of sisters and cousin and cousin's friend and Mom
and Grandma. Ants, particularly the bigger black ones were my friends because
they didn't bite. The smaller red ones sometimes did. Sometimes there were
caterpillars too. It was a very enjoyable place to sit in the shade, sometimes
with a couple of Grandma's chocolate chip cookies and an ice filled glass with
cherry Kool-Aid. I was greatly comforted by watching nature from under cover. I
don't know why. Everyone has or had a 'sacred' place. I am referencing the
book, The Sacred and the Profane by Mircea Eliade.
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The Sacred and the Profane: The Nature of Religion
by Mircea Eliade, Willard R. Trask
In the classic text The
Sacred and the Profane, famed historian of religion Mircea Eliade observes
that even moderns who proclaim themselves residents of a completely profane
world are still unconsciously nourished by the memory of the sacred. Eliade
traces manifestations of the sacred from primitive to modern times in terms of
space, time, nature, and the cosmos. In doing so he shows how the total human
experience of the religious man compares with that of the nonreligious.
This book of great originality and scholarship serves as an excellent introduction to the history of religion, but its perspective also emcompasses philosophical anthropology, phenomenology, and psychology. It will appeal to anyone seeking to discover the potential dimensions of human existence.
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from http://www.goodreads dot com/book/show/28024.The_Sacred_and_the_Profane
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A Goodreads' Review by
Michael Brady: (Five Stars out of Five)
The atheist is probably right, but homo
religiosus has all the fun. Me, I find indulging my agnosticism - by way of a
deep interest in the history and philosophy of religion - more interesting that
being an angry anti-theist. In that pursuit I am indebted to historians,
philosophers, psychologists, and theologians of the 20th century. Useful guides
in this territory have included Tillich, Otto, James, Jung, Campbell, and
several times now, Eliade.
“The Sacred and the Profane: The Nature of Religion” is the most accessible of the several books by Mircea Eliade that I've read. “History of Religious Ideas, Volume 1: From the Stone Age to the Eleusinian Mysteries,” was pretty dense. “Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy” was a bit of a slog. Were you to read only one book by Eliade “The Sacred and the Profane” is the one I'd recommend, at least until I've read more of him.
Unlike the Angries who think religion should be simply and finally dispensed by modern societies, Eliade (and the others) explain that some sort of religion is all but inevitable. The religious impulse is hard-wired into how we perceive the world and interact with each other. We've probably had religion for as long as we've had speech, music, and art; it may spring from same nexus. What humanity has done with - and proposes to do with - that drive is as significant today as it was 2,000 or 20,000 years ago. Religion is not going away, if anything the most dangerous sorts of it are resurgent. Understanding religion and sort of certainty that leads to life-changing (or life-ending) dogma, doctrine, and action is more important than ever.
If the study of religion is your thing you've probably already read The Sacred and the Profane, but if you haven't, you should.
“The Sacred and the Profane: The Nature of Religion” is the most accessible of the several books by Mircea Eliade that I've read. “History of Religious Ideas, Volume 1: From the Stone Age to the Eleusinian Mysteries,” was pretty dense. “Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy” was a bit of a slog. Were you to read only one book by Eliade “The Sacred and the Profane” is the one I'd recommend, at least until I've read more of him.
Unlike the Angries who think religion should be simply and finally dispensed by modern societies, Eliade (and the others) explain that some sort of religion is all but inevitable. The religious impulse is hard-wired into how we perceive the world and interact with each other. We've probably had religion for as long as we've had speech, music, and art; it may spring from same nexus. What humanity has done with - and proposes to do with - that drive is as significant today as it was 2,000 or 20,000 years ago. Religion is not going away, if anything the most dangerous sorts of it are resurgent. Understanding religion and sort of certainty that leads to life-changing (or life-ending) dogma, doctrine, and action is more important than ever.
If the study of religion is your thing you've probably already read The Sacred and the Profane, but if you haven't, you should.
Selected
and edited from -- http://www.goodreads dot
com/book/show/28024.The_Sacred_and_the_Profane#other_reviews
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Carol
is ready to go home. - Amorella
1602
hours. I like to think that have not read a better book on the nature of
religion than The Sacred and the Profane.
The above is a fair assessment for someone
who cannot remember the books he has read. - Amorella
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Mircea
Eliade
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mircea Eliade (Romanian: 1907 –1986) was a
Romanian historian of religion, fiction writer, philosopher, and professor at
the University of Chicago. He was a leading interpreter of religious
experience, who established paradigms in religious studies that persist to this
day. His theory that hierophanies
form the basis of religion, splitting the human experience of reality into
sacred and profane space and time, has proved influential. One of his most
influential contributions to religious studies was his theory of Eternal Return, which holds that myths
and rituals do not simply commemorate hierophanies, but, at least to the minds
of the religious, actually participate in them. . ..
. . . Noted for his vast
erudition, Eliade had fluent command of five languages (Romanian, French,
German, Italian and English) and a reading knowledge of three others (Hebrew,
Persian and Sanskrit). He was elected a posthumous member of the Romanian
Academy.
Work
The general nature of religion
In his work on the history of religion, Eliade is most highly
regarded for his writings on Alchemy, Shamanism Yoga and what he called the eternal return—the implicit belief,
supposedly present in religious thought in general, that religious behavior is
not only an imitation of, but also a participation in, sacred events, and thus restores
the mythical time of origins.
Eliade's thinking was in part influenced by Rudolf Otto,
Gerardus van der Leeuw, Nae Ionescu and the writings of the Traditionalist
School (Rene Guenon and Julius Evola). For instance, Eliade's The Sacred and
the Profane partially builds on Otto's The
Idea of the Holy to show how religion emerges from the experience of the
sacred, and myths of time and nature.
Eliade is known for his attempt to find broad, cross-cultural
parallels and unities in religion, particularly in myths.
Wendy Doniger, Eliade's colleague from 1978 until his death, has
observed that "Eliade argued boldly for universals where he might more
safely have argued for widely prevalent patterns". His Patterns in
Comparative Religion was praised by French philologist Georges Dumezil for
its coherence and ability to synthesize diverse and distinct mythologies.
Robert Ellwood describes Eliade's approach to religion as
follows. Eliade approaches religion by imagining an ideally
"religious" person, whom he calls homo religiosus in his
writings.
Eliade's theories basically describe how this homo religiosus
would view the world. This does not mean that all religious practitioners
actually think and act like homo religiosus.
Instead, it means that religious behavior "says through its
own language" that the world is as homo religiosus would see it,
whether or not the real-life participants in religious behavior are aware of
it.
However, Ellwood writes that Eliade "tends to slide over
that last qualification", implying that traditional societies actually
thought like homo religiosus.
Sacred and profane
Eliade argues that religious thought in general rests on a sharp
distinction between the Sacred and the profane; whether it takes the form of
God, gods, or mythical Ancestors, the Sacred contains all "reality",
or value, and other things acquire "reality" only to the extent that
they participate in the sacred.
Eliade's understanding of religion centers on his concept of hierophany
(manifestation of the Sacred)—a concept that includes, but is not limited to,
the older and more restrictive concept of theophany (manifestation of a god).
From the perspective of religious thought, Eliade argues,
hierophanies give structure and orientation to the world, establishing a sacred
order. The "profane" space of nonreligious experience can only be
divided up geometrically: it has no "qualitative differentiation and,
hence, no orientation [is] given by virtue of its inherent structure".
Thus, profane space gives man no pattern for his behavior. In
contrast to profane space, the site of a hierophany has a sacred structure to
which religious man conforms himself. A hierophany amounts to a
"revelation of an absolute reality, opposed to the non-reality of the vast
surrounding expanse".
As an example of
"sacred space" demanding a certain response from man, Eliade gives
the story of Moses halting before Yahweh's manifestation as a burning bush (Exodus 3:5) and taking off his shoes.
Origin myths and sacred time
Eliade notes that, in traditional societies, myth represents the
absolute truth about primordial time. According to the myths, this was the time when the Sacred first appeared,
establishing the world's structure—myths claim to describe the primordial
events that made society and the natural world be that which they are. Eliade
argues that all myths are, in that sense, origin myths: "myth, then, is
always an account of a creation".
Many traditional societies believe that the power of a thing
lies in its origin If origin is equivalent to power, then "it is the first
manifestation of a thing that is significant and valid" (a thing's reality
and value therefore lies only in its first appearance).
According to Eliade's theory, only the Sacred has value, only a
thing's first appearance has value and, therefore, only the Sacred's first
appearance has value. Myth describes the Sacred's first appearance; therefore,
the mythical age is sacred time, the only time of value: "primitive man
was interested only in the beginnings [...] to him it mattered little
what had happened to himself, or to others like him, in more or less distant
times". Eliade postulated this as the reason for the "nostalgia for
origins" that appears in many religions, the desire to return to a
primordial Paradise.
Eternal return and "Terror of history"
Eliade argues that traditional man attributes no value to the
linear march of historical events: only the events of the mythical age have
value. To give his own life value, traditional man performs myths and rituals.
Because the Sacred's essence lies only in the mythical age, only in the
Sacred's first appearance, any later appearance is actually the first
appearance; by recounting or re-enacting mythical events, myths and rituals
"re-actualize" those events. Eliade often uses the term
"archetypes" to refer to the mythical models established by the
Sacred, although Eliade's use of the term should be distinguished from the use
of the term in Jungian psychology.
Thus, argues Eliade, religious behavior does not only
commemorate, but also participates in, sacred events:
In imitating the exemplary acts of a god or of a mythical
hero, or simply by recounting their adventures, the man of an archaic society
detaches himself from profane time and magically re-enters the Great Time, the
sacred time.
Eliade called this concept the "eternal return"
(distinguished from the philosophical concept of "eternal return").
Wendy Doniger noted that Eliade's theory of the eternal return "has become
a truism in the study of religions".
Eliade attributes the well-known "cyclic" vision of
time in ancient thought to belief in the eternal return. For instance, the New
Year ceremonies among the Mesopotamians, the Egyptians and other Near Eastern
peoples re-enacted their cosmogonic myths. Therefore, by the logic of the
eternal return, each New Year ceremony was the beginning of the world
for these peoples. According to Eliade, these peoples felt a need to return to
the Beginning at regular intervals, turning time into a circle.
Eliade argues that yearning to remain in the mythical age causes
a "terror of history": traditional man desires to escape the linear
succession of events (which, Eliade indicated, he viewed as empty of any
inherent value or sacrality). Eliade suggests that the abandonment of mythical
thought and the full acceptance of linear, historical time, with its
"terror", is one of the reasons for modern man's anxieties.
Traditional societies escape this anxiety to an extent, as they refuse to
completely acknowledge historical time.
Coincidentia oppositorum
Eliade claims that many myths, rituals, and mystical experiences
involve a "coincidence of opposites", or coincidentia oppositorum. In fact, he calls the coincidentia
oppositorum "the mythical pattern". Many myths, Eliade notes,
"present us with a twofold revelation":
they express on the one hand the diametrical opposition of two
divine figures sprung from one and the same principle and destined, in many
versions, to be reconciled at some illud tempus of eschatology, and on
the other, the coincidentia oppositorum in the very nature of the
divinity, which shows itself, by turns or even simultaneously, benevolent and
terrible, creative and destructive, solar and serpentine, and so on (in other
words, actual and potential).
Eliade argues that "Yahweh is both kind and wrathful; the
God of the Christian mystics and theologians is terrible and gentle at
once". He also thought that the Indian and Chinese mystic tried to attain
"a state of perfect indifference and neutrality" that resulted in a
coincidence of opposites in which "pleasure and pain, desire and
repulsion, cold and heat [...] are expunged from his awareness".
According to Eliade, the coincidentia oppositorum’s
appeal lies in "man's deep dissatisfaction with his actual situation, with
what is called the human condition" In many mythologies, the end of the
mythical age involves a "fall", a fundamental "ontological
change in the structure of the World".
Because the coincidentia oppositorum is a contradiction,
it represents a denial of the world's current logical structure, a reversal of
the "fall".
Also, traditional man's dissatisfaction with the post-mythical
age expresses itself as a feeling of being "torn and separate". In
many mythologies, the lost mythical age was a Paradise, "a paradoxical
state in which the contraries exist side by side without conflict, and the
multiplications form aspects of a mysterious Unity". The coincidentia
oppositorum expresses a wish to recover the lost unity of the mythical
Paradise, for it presents a reconciliation of opposites and the unification of
diversity:
On the level of pre-systematic thought, the mystery of totality
embodies man's endeavor to reach a perspective in which the contraries are
abolished, the Spirit of Evil reveals itself as a stimulant of Good, and Demons
appear as the night aspect of the Gods.
Exceptions to the general nature
Eliade acknowledges that not all religious behavior has all the
attributes described in his theory of sacred time and the eternal return. The Zoroastrian,
Jewish, Christian and Muslim traditions embrace linear, historical time as
sacred or capable of sanctification, while some Eastern traditions largely
reject the notion of sacred time, seeking escape from the cycles of time.
Because they contain rituals, Judaism and Christianity
necessarily—Eliade argues—retain a sense of cyclic time:
by the very fact that it is a religion,
Christianity had to keep at least one mythical aspect—liturgical Time, that is,
the periodic rediscovery of the illud tempus of the beginnings [and] an imitation
of the Christ as exemplary pattern.
However, Judaism and Christianity do not see time as a circle
endlessly turning on itself; nor do they see such a cycle as desirable, as a
way to participate in the Sacred. Instead, these religions embrace the concept
of linear history progressing toward the Messianic Age or the Last Judgment,
thus initiating the idea of "progress" (humans are to work for a
Paradise in the future).
However, Eliade's
understanding of Judaeo-Christian eschatology can also be understood as
cyclical in that the "end of time" is a return to God: "The
final catastrophe will put an end to history, hence will restore man to
eternity and beatitude".
The pre-Islamic Persian religion of Zoroastrianism, which made a
notable "contribution to the religious formation of the West", also
has a linear sense of time. According to Eliade, the Hebrews had a linear sense
of time before being influenced by Zoroastrianism.
In fact, Eliade identifies the Hebrews, not the Zoroastrians, as
the first culture to truly "valorize" historical time, the first to
see all major historical events as episodes in a continuous divine revelation.
However, Eliade argues, Judaism elaborated its mythology of linear time by
adding elements borrowed from Zoroastrianism—including ethical dualism, a
savior figure, the future resurrection of the body, and the idea of cosmic
progress toward "the final triumph of Good".
The Indian religions of the East generally retain a cyclic view
of time—for instance, the Hindu doctrine of kalpas.
According to Eliade, most religions that accept the cyclic view of time also
embrace it: they see it as a way to return to the sacred time. However, in
Buddhism, Jainism and some forms of Hinduism, the Sacred lies outside the flux
of the material world (called maya or
"illusion"), and one can only reach it by escaping from the cycles of
time.
Because the Sacred lies outside cyclic time, which conditions
humans, people can only reach the Sacred by escaping the human condition.
According to Eliade, Yoga techniques aim at escaping the limitations of the
body, allowing the soul (atman) to
rise above maya and reach the Sacred (nirvana, moksha). Imagery of "freedom", and of death to
one's old body and rebirth with a new body, occur frequently in Yogic texts,
representing escape from the bondage of the temporal human condition. Eliade
discusses these themes in detail in Yoga: Immortality and Freedom.
Symbolism of the Center
A recurrent theme in Eliade's myth analysis is the axis mundi, the Center of the World.
According to Eliade, the Cosmic Center is a necessary corollary to the division
of reality into the Sacred and the profane. The Sacred contains all value, and
the world gains purpose and meaning only through hierophanies:
In the homogeneous and infinite expanse, in which no point of
reference is possible and hence no orientation is established, the hierophany reveals an
absolute fixed point, a center.
Because profane space gives man no orientation for his life, the
Sacred must manifest itself in a hierophany, thereby establishing a sacred site
around which man can orient himself. The site of a hierophany establishes a
"fixed point, a center". This Center abolishes the "homogeneity
and relativity of profane space",for it becomes "the central axis for
all future orientation".
A manifestation of the Sacred in profane space is, by
definition, an example of something breaking through from one plane of
existence to another. Therefore, the initial hierophany that establishes the
Center must be a point at which there is contact between different planes—this,
Eliade argues, explains the frequent mythical imagery of a Cosmic Tree or
Pillar joining Heaven, Earth, and the underworld.
Eliade noted that, when traditional societies found a new
territory, they often perform consecrating rituals that reenact the hierophany
that established the Center and founded the world. In addition, the designs of
traditional buildings, especially temples, usually imitate the mythical image
of the axis mundi joining the different cosmic levels. For instance, the
Babylonian ziggurats were built to resemble cosmic mountains passing through
the heavenly spheres, and the rock of the Temple in Jerusalem was supposed to
reach deep into the tehom, or
primordial waters.
According to the logic of the eternal return, the site of each
such symbolic Center will actually be the Center of the World:
It may be said, in general, that the majority of the sacred and
ritual trees that we meet with in the history of religions are only replicas,
imperfect copies of this exemplary archetype, the Cosmic Tree. Thus, all these
sacred trees are thought of as situated at the Centre of the World, and all the
ritual trees or posts [...] are, as it were, magically projected into the
Centre of the World.
According to Eliade's interpretation, religious man apparently
feels the need to live not only near, but at, the mythical Center as
much as possible, given that the Center is the point of communication with the
Sacred.
Thus, Eliade argues, many traditional societies share common
outlines in their mythical geographies. In the middle of the known world is the
sacred Center, "a place that is sacred above all"; this Center
anchors the established order. Around the sacred Center lies the known world,
the realm of established order; and beyond the known world is a chaotic and
dangerous realm, "peopled by ghosts, demons, [and] 'foreigners' (who are
[identified with] demons and the souls of the dead)".
According to Eliade, traditional societies place their known
world at the Center because (from their perspective) their known world is the
realm that obeys a recognizable order, and it therefore must be the realm in
which the Sacred manifests itself; the regions beyond the known world, which
seem strange and foreign, must lie far from the Center, outside the order
established by the Sacred.
Shamanism
Overview
Eliade's scholarly work includes a study of shamanism, Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy,
a survey of shamanistic practices in different areas. His Myths, Dreams and
Mysteries also addresses shamanism in some detail.
In Shamanism, Eliade argues for a restrictive use of the
word shaman: it should not apply to just any magician or medicine man,
as that would make the term redundant; at the same time, he argues against
restricting the term to the practitioners of the sacred of Siberia and Central
Asia (it is from one of the titles for this function, namely, šamán,
considered by Eliade to be of Tungusic origin, that the term itself was
introduced into Western languages).
Eliade defines a shaman as follows: he is believed to cure, like
all doctors, and to perform miracles of the fakir type, like all magicians
[...] But beyond this, he is a psychopomp, and he may also be a priest, mystic,
and poet.
If we define shamanism this way, Eliade claims, we find that the
term covers a collection of phenomena that share a common and unique
"structure" and "history". (When thus defined, shamanism
tends to occur in its purest forms in hunting and pastoral societies like those
of Siberia and Central Asia, which revere a celestial High God "on the way
to becoming a deus otiosus". Eliade takes the shamanism of those
regions as his most representative example.)
In his examinations of shamanism, Eliade emphasizes the shaman's
attribute of regaining man's condition before the "Fall" out of
sacred time: "The most representative mystical experience of the archaic
societies, that of shamanism, betrays the Nostalgia for Paradise, the
desire to recover the state of freedom and beatitude before 'the Fall'."
This concern—which, by itself, is the concern of almost all religious behavior,
according to Eliade—manifests itself in specific ways in shamanism.
Death, resurrection and secondary functions
According to Eliade, one of the most common shamanistic themes
is the shaman's supposed death and resurrection. This occurs in particular
during his initiation. Often, the procedure is supposed to be performed by spirits
who dismember the shaman and strip the flesh from his bones, then put him back
together and revive him. In more than one way, this death and resurrection
represents the shaman's elevation above human nature.
First, the shaman dies so that he can rise above human nature on
a quite literal level. After he has been dismembered by the initiatory spirits,
they often replace his old organs with new, magical ones (the shaman dies to
his profane self so that he can rise again as a new, sanctified, being).
Second, by being reduced to his bones, the shaman experiences
rebirth on a more symbolic level: in many hunting and herding societies, the
bone represents the source of life, so reduction to a skeleton "is
equivalent to re-entering the womb of this primordial life, that is, to a
complete renewal, a mystical rebirth". Eliade considers this return to the
source of life essentially equivalent to the eternal return.
Third, the shamanistic phenomenon of repeated death and
resurrection also represents a transfiguration in other ways. The shaman dies
not once but many times: having died during initiation and risen again with new
powers, the shaman can send his spirit out of his body on errands; thus, his
whole career consists of repeated deaths and resurrections. The shaman's new
ability to die and return to life shows that he is no longer bound by the laws
of profane time, particularly the law of death: "the ability to 'die' and
come to life again [...] denotes that [the shaman] has surpassed the human condition".
Having risen above the human condition, the shaman is not bound
by the flow of history. Therefore, he enjoys the conditions of the mythical
age. In many myths, humans can speak with animals; and, after their
initiations, many shamans claim to be able to communicate with animals.
According to Eliade, this is one manifestation of the shaman's return to
"the illud tempus described to us by the paradisiac myths".
The shaman can descend to the underworld or ascend to heaven,
often by climbing the World Tree, the cosmic pillar, the sacred ladder, or some
other form of the axis mundi. Often,
the shaman will ascend to heaven to speak with the High God. Because the gods
(particularly the High God, according to Eliade's deus otiosus concept)
were closer to humans during the mythical age, the shaman's easy communication
with the High God represents an abolition of history and a return to the
mythical age.
Because of his ability to communicate with the gods and descend
to the land of the dead, the shaman frequently functions as a psychopomp and a
medicine man.
Eliade's
philosophy
Early contributions
In addition to his political essays, the young Mircea Eliade
authored others, philosophical in content. Connected with the ideology of Trairism, they were often prophetic in
tone, and saw Eliade being hailed as a herald by various representatives of his
generation. When Eliade was 21 years old and publishing his Itinerar
spiritual, literary criutic Serban Cioculescu described him as "the
column leader of the spiritually mystical and Orthodox youth." Cioculescu
discussed his "impressive erudition", but argued that it was
"occasionally plethoric, poetically inebriating itself through abuse"
Cioculescu's colleague Perpessicius saw the young author and his
generation as marked by "the specter of war", a notion he connected
to various essays of the 1920s and 30s in which Eliade threatened the world
with the verdict that a new conflict was looming (while asking that young
people be allowed to manifest their will and fully experience freedom before
perishing).
One of Eliade's noted contributions in this respect was the 1932
Soliloquii ("Soliloquies"), which explored existential
philosophy. George Calinescu who saw in it "an echo of Nae Ionescu's,
traced a parallel with the essays of another of Ionescu's disciples, Emil
Cioran, while noting that Cioran's were "of a more exulted tone and
written in the aphoristic form of Iiekegaard". Călinescu recorded Eliade's
rejection of objectivity, citing the author's stated indifference towards any
"naïveté" or "contradictions" that the reader could
possibly reproach him, as well as his dismissive thoughts of "theoretical
data" and mainstream philosophy in general (Eliade saw the latter as
"inert, infertile and pathogenic"). Eliade thus argued, "a
sincere brain is unassailable, for it denies itself to any relationship with
outside truths."
The young writer was however careful to clarify that the existence
he took into consideration was not the life of "instincts and personal
idiosyncrasies", which he believed determined the lives of many humans,
but that of a distinct set comprising "personalities". He described
"personalities" as characterized by both "purpose" and
"a much more complicated and dangerous alchemy".
This differentiation, George Călinescu believed, echoed
Ionescu's metaphor of man, seen as "the only animal who can fail at
living", and the duck, who "shall remain a duck no matter what it
does". According to Eliade, the purpose of personalities is infinity:
"consciously and gloriously bringing [existence] to waste, into as many
skies as possible, continuously fulfilling and polishing oneself, seeking
ascent and not circumference."
In Eliade's view, two roads await man in this process. One is
glory, determined by either work or procreation, and the other the asceticism
of religion or magic—both, Călinescu believed, where aimed at reaching the
absolute, even in those cases where Eliade described the latter as an
"abyssal experience" into which man may take the plunge.
The critic pointed out that the addition of "a magical
solution" to the options taken into consideration seemed to be Eliade's
own original contributions to his mentor's philosophy, and proposed that it may
have owed inspiration to Julius Evola and his disciples. He also recorded that
Eliade applied this concept to human creation, and specifically to artistic
creation, citing him describing the latter as "a magical joy, the
victorious break of the iron circle" (a reflection of imitatio dei, having salvation for its ultimate goal).
Philosopher of religion
Anti-reductionism and the "transconscious"
By profession, Eliade was a historian of religion. However, his
scholarly works draw heavily on philosophical and psychological terminology. In
addition, they contain a number of philosophical arguments about religion.
In particular, Eliade often implies the existence of a universal
psychological or spiritual "essence" behind all religious phenomena.
Because of these arguments, some have accused Eliade of over-generalization and
"essentialism", or even of promoting a theological agenda under the
guise of historical scholarship. However, others argue that Eliade is better
understood as a scholar who is willing to openly discuss sacred experience and
its consequences.
In studying religion, Eliade rejects certain
"reductionist" approaches.
Eliade thinks a religious phenomenon cannot be reduced to a product of culture
and history. He insists that, although religion involves "the social man,
the economic man, and so forth", nonetheless "all these conditioning
factors together do not, of themselves, add up to the life of the spirit".
Using this anti-reductionist position, Eliade argues against
those who accuse him of overgeneralizing, of looking for universals at the
expense of particulars. Eliade admits that every religious phenomenon is shaped
by the particular culture and history that produced it:
When the Son of God incarnated and became the Christ, he had to
speak Aramaic; he could only conduct himself as a Hebrew of his times [...] His
religious message, however universal it might be, was conditioned by the past
and present history of the Hebrew people. If the Son of God had been born in
India, his spoken language would have had to conform itself to the structure of
the Indian languages.
However, Eliade argues against those he calls "historicist
or existentialist philosophers" who do not recognize "man in
general" behind particular men produced by particular situations (Eliade
cites Immanuel Kant as the likely forerunner of this kind of
"historicism"). He adds that human consciousness transcends (is not
reducible to) its historical and cultural conditioning, and even suggests the
possibility of a "transconscious".
By this, Eliade does not
necessarily mean anything supernatural or mystical: within the
"transconscious", he places religious motifs, symbols, images, and
nostalgias that are supposedly universal and whose causes therefore cannot be
reduced to historical and cultural conditioning.
Platonism and "primitive ontology"
According to Eliade, traditional man feels that things
"acquire their reality, their identity, only to the extent of their
participation in a transcendent reality".To traditional man, the profane
world is "meaningless", and a thing rises out of the profane world
only by conforming to an ideal, mythical model.
Eliade describes this view of reality as a fundamental part of
"primitive ontology" (the study of "existence" or
"reality"). Here he sees a similarity with the philosophy of Plato,
who believed that physical phenomena are pale and transient imitations of
eternal models or "Forms" (see Theory of forms). He argued:
Plato could be regarded as the outstanding philosopher of
'primitive mentality,' that is, as the thinker who succeeded in giving
philosophic currency and validity to the modes of life and behavior of archaic
humanity.
Eliade thinks the Platonic Theory of forms is
"primitive ontology" persisting in Greek philosophy. He claims that
Platonism is the "most fully elaborated" version of this primitive
ontology.
In The Structure of Religious Knowing: Encountering the
Sacred in Eliade and Lonergan, John Daniel
Dadosky argues that, by making this statement, Eliade was
acknowledging "indebtedness to Greek philosophy in general, and to Plato's
theory of forms specifically, for his own theory of archetypes and
repetition".
However, Dadosky also states that "one should be cautious when trying to assess Eliade's indebtedness to Plato". Dadosky quotes Robert Segal, a professor of religion, who draws a distinction between Platonism and Eliade's "primitive ontology": for Eliade, the ideal models are patterns that a person or object may or may not imitate; for Plato, there is a Form for everything, and everything imitates a Form by the very fact that it exists.
However, Dadosky also states that "one should be cautious when trying to assess Eliade's indebtedness to Plato". Dadosky quotes Robert Segal, a professor of religion, who draws a distinction between Platonism and Eliade's "primitive ontology": for Eliade, the ideal models are patterns that a person or object may or may not imitate; for Plato, there is a Form for everything, and everything imitates a Form by the very fact that it exists.
Existentialism and secularism
Behind the diverse cultural forms of different religions, Eliade
proposes a universal: traditional man, he claims, "always believes that
there is an absolute reality, the sacred, which transcends this world
but manifests itself in this world, thereby sanctifying it and making it
real".
Furthermore, traditional man's behavior gains purpose and
meaning through the Sacred: "By imitating divine behavior, man puts and
keeps himself close to the gods—that is, in the real and the significant."
According to Eliade, "modern nonreligious man assumes a new
existential situation". For traditional man, historical events gain
significance by imitating sacred, transcendent events. In contrast, nonreligious
man lacks sacred models for how history or human behavior should be, so he must
decide on his own how history should proceed—he "regards himself solely as
the subject and agent of history, and refuses all appeal to
transcendence".
From the standpoint of religious thought, the world has an
objective purpose established by mythical events, to which man should conform
himself: "Myth teaches [religious man] the primordial 'stories' that have
constituted him existentially."
From the standpoint of secular thought, any purpose must be
invented and imposed on the world by man. Because of this new "existential
situation", Eliade argues, the Sacred becomes the primary obstacle to
nonreligious man's "freedom". In viewing himself as the proper maker
of history, nonreligious man resists all notions of an externally (for
instance, divinely) imposed order or model he must obey: modern man "makes
himself, and he only makes himself completely in proportion as he
desacralizes himself and the world. [...] He will not truly be free until he
has killed the last god".
Religious survivals in the secular world
Eliade says that secular man cannot escape his bondage to
religious thought. By its very nature, secularism depends on religion for its
sense of identity: by resisting sacred models, by insisting that man make
history on his own, secular man identifies himself only through opposition to
religious thought: "He [secular man] recognizes himself in proportion as
he 'frees' and 'purifies' himself from the 'superstitions' of his
ancestors."
Furthermore, modern man "still retains a large stock of
camouflaged myths and degenerated rituals". For example, modern social
events still have similarities to traditional initiation rituals, and modern
novels feature mythical motifs and themes.
Finally, secular man still participates in something like the
eternal return: by reading modern literature, "modern man succeeds in
obtaining an 'escape from time' comparable to the 'emergence from time'
effected by myths".
Eliade sees traces of religious thought even in secular
academia. He thinks modern scientists are motivated by the religious desire to
return to the sacred time of origins:
One could say that the anxious search for the origins of Life
and Mind; the fascination in the 'mysteries of Nature'; the urge to penetrate
and decipher the inner structure of Matter—all these longings and drives denote
a sort of nostalgia for the primordial, for the original universal matrix.
Matter, Substance, represents the absolute origin, the beginning of all
things.
Eliade believes the rise of materialism in the 19th century
forced the religious nostalgia for "origins" to express itself in
science. He mentions his own field of History of Religions as one of the fields
that was obsessed with origins during the 19th century:
The new discipline of History of Religions developed rapidly in
this cultural context. And, of course, it followed a like pattern: the
positivistic approach to the facts and the search for origins, for the very
beginning of religion.
All Western historiography was during that time obsessed with
the quest of origins. [...] This search for the origins of human
institutions and cultural creations prolongs and completes the naturalist's
quest for the origin of species, the biologist's dream of grasping the origin
of life, the geologist's and the astronomer's endeavor to understand the origin
of the Earth and the Universe.
From a psychological point of view, one can decipher here the
same nostalgia for the 'primordial' and the 'original'.
In some of his writings, Eliade describes modern political
ideologies as secularized mythology. According to Eliade, Marxism "takes
up and carries on one of the great eschatological myths of the Middle Eastern
and Mediterranean world, namely: the redemptive part to be played by the Just
(the 'elect', the 'anointed', the 'innocent', the 'missioners', in our own days
the proletariat), whose sufferings are invoked to change the ontological status
of the world." Eliade sees the widespread myth of the Golden Age, "which,
according to a number of traditions, lies at the beginning and the end of
History", as the "precedent" for Karl Marx's vision of a
classless society.
Finally, he sees Marx's belief in the final triumph of the good
(the proletariat) over the evil (the bourgeoisie) as "a truly messianic
Judaeo-Christian ideology". Despite Marx's hostility toward religion,
Eliade implies, his ideology works within a conceptual framework inherited from
religious mythology.
Likewise, Eliade notes that Nazism involved a pseudo-pagan
mysticism based on ancient Germanic religion. He suggests that the differences
between the Nazis' pseudo-Germanic mythology and Marx's pseudo-Judaeo-Christian
mythology explain their differing success:
In comparison with the vigorous optimism of the communist myth,
the mythology propagated by the national socialists seems particularly inept;
and this is not only because of the limitations of the racial myth (how could
one imagine that the rest of Europe would voluntarily accept submission to the
master-race?), but above all because of the fundamental pessimism of the
Germanic mythology. [...] For the eschaton prophesied and expected by the
ancient Germans was the ragnarok--that is, a catastrophic end of the world.
Modern man and the "Terror of history"
According to Eliade, modern man displays "traces" of
"mythological behavior" because he intensely needs sacred time and
the eternal return.
Despite modern man's claims to be nonreligious, he ultimately
cannot find value in the linear progression of historical events; even modern
man feels the "Terror of history": "Here too [...] there is
always the struggle against Time, the hope to be freed from the weight of 'dead
Time,' of the Time that crushes and kills."
According to Eliade, this "terror of history" becomes
especially acute when violent and threatening historical events confront modern
man—the mere fact that a terrible event has happened, that it is part of
history, is of little comfort to those who suffer from it.
Eliade asks rhetorically how modern man can "tolerate the
catastrophes and horrors of history—from collective deportations and massacres
to atomic bombings—if beyond them he can glimpse no sign, no transhistorical
meaning".
Eliade indicates that, if repetitions of mythical events
provided sacred value and meaning for history in the eyes of ancient man,
modern man has denied the Sacred and must therefore invent value and purpose on
his own.
Without the Sacred to confer an absolute, objective value upon
historical events, modern man is left with "a relativistic or nihlistic
view of history" and a resulting "spiritual aridity". In chapter
4 ("The Terror of History") of The Myth of the Eternal Return
and chapter 9 ("Religious Symbolism and the Modern Man's Anxiety") of
Myths, Dreams, and Mysteries, Eliade argues at length that the rejection
of religious thought is a primary cause of modern man's anxieties.
Inter-cultural dialogue and a "new humanism"
Eliade argues that modern man may escape the "Terror of
history" by learning from traditional cultures. For example, Eliade thinks
Hinduism has advice for modern Westerners. According to many branches of
Hinduism, the world of historical time is illusory, and the only absolute
reality is the immortal soul or atman
within man.
According to Eliade, Hindus thus escape the terror of history by
refusing to see historical time as the true reality. Eliade notes that a
Western or Continental philosopher might feel suspicious toward this Hindu view
of history:
One can easily guess what a European historical and
existentialist philosopher might reply:
You ask me, he would say, to 'die to History'; but man is not,
and he cannot be anything else but History, for his very essence is
temporality. You are asking me, then, to give up my authentic existence and to
take refuge in an abstraction, in pure Being, in the atman: I am to
sacrifice my dignity as a creator of History in order to live an a-historic,
inauthentic existence, empty of all human content.
Well, I prefer to put up with my anxiety: at least, it cannot
deprive me of a certain heroic grandeur, that of becoming conscious of, and
accepting, the human condition.
However, Eliade argues that the Hindu approach to history does
not necessarily lead to a rejection of history. On the contrary, in Hinduism
historical human existence is not the "absurdity" that many
Continental philosophers see it as.
According to Hinduism, history is a divine creation, and one may
live contentedly within it as long as one maintains a certain degree of
detachment from it: "One is devoured by Time, by History, not because one
lives in them, but because one thinks them real and, in consequence, one
forgets or undervalues eternity."
Furthermore, Eliade argues that Westerners can learn from
non-Western cultures to see something besides absurdity in suffering and death.
Traditional cultures see suffering and death as a rite of passage. In fact,
their initiation rituals often involve a symbolic death and resurrection, or
symbolic ordeals followed by relief.
Thus, Eliade argues, modern man can learn to see his historical
ordeals, even death, as necessary initiations into the next stage of one's
existence.
Eliade even suggests that traditional thought offers relief from
the vague anxiety caused by "our obscure presentiment of the end of the
world, or more exactly of the end of our world, our own
civilization". Many traditional cultures have myths about the end of their
world or civilization; however, these myths do not succeed "in paralysing
either Life or Culture".
These traditional cultures emphasize cyclic time and, therefore,
the inevitable rise of a new world or civilization on the ruins of the old.
Thus, they feel comforted even in contemplating the end times.
Eliade argues that a Western spiritual rebirth can happen within
the framework of Western spiritual traditions. However, he says, to start this
rebirth, Westerners may need to be stimulated by ideas from non-Western
cultures. In his Myths, Dreams, and Mysteries, Eliade claims that a
"genuine encounter" between cultures "might well constitute the
point of departure for a new humanism, upon a world scale".
Christianity and the "salvation" of History
Mircea Eliade sees the Abrahamic religions as a turning point
between the ancient, cyclic view of time and the modern, linear view of time,
noting that, in their case, sacred events are not limited to a far-off
primordial age, but continue throughout history:
"time is no longer [only] the circular Time of the Eternal
Return n; it
has become linear and irreversible Time". He thus sees in Christianity the
ultimate example of a religion embracing linear, historical time. When God is
born as a man, into the stream of history, "all history becomes a
theophany. According to Eliade, "Christianity strives to save
history". In Christianity, the Sacred enters a human being (Christ) to
save humans, but it also enters history to "save" history and turn
otherwise ordinary, historical events into something "capable of
transmitting a trans-historical message".
From Eliade's perspective, Christianity's "trans-historical
message" may be the most important help that modern man could have in
confronting the terror of history. In his book Mito ("Myth"), Italian
researcher Furio Jesi argues that Eliade denies man the position of a true
protagonist in history:
for Eliade, true human
experience lies not in intellectually "making history", but in man's
experiences of joy and grief. Thus, from Eliade's perspective, the Christ story
becomes the perfect myth for modern man. In Christianity, God willingly entered
historical time by being born as Christ, and accepted the suffering that
followed. By identifying with Christ, modern man can learn to confront painful
historical events. Ultimately, according to Jesi, Eliade sees Christianity as
the only religion that can save man from the "Terror of history".
In Eliade's view, traditional man sees time as an endless
repetition of mythical archetypes. In contrast, modern man has abandoned
mythical archetypes and entered linear, historical time—in this context, unlike
many other religions, Christianity attributes value to historical time.
Thus, Eliade concludes, "Christianity incontestably proves
to be the religion of 'fallen man'", of modern man who has lost "the
paradise of archetypes and repetition".
"Modern gnosticism", Romanticism and Eliade's
nostalgia
In analyzing the similarities between the
"mythologists" Eliade, Joseph Campbell and Carl Jung, Robert Ellwood
concluded that the three modern mythologists, all of whom believed that myths
reveal "timeless truth", fulfilled the role "gnostics" had
in antiquity. The diverse religious movements covered by the term
"gnosticism" share the basic doctrines that the surrounding world is
fundamentally evil or inhospitable, that we are trapped in the world through no
fault of our own, and that we can be saved from the world only through secret
knowledge (gnosis). Ellwood claimed
that the three mythologists were "modern gnostics through and
through", remarking,
Whether in Augustan Rome or modern Europe, democracy all too
easily gave way to totalitarianism, technology was as readily used for battle
as for comfort, and immense wealth lay alongside abysmal poverty. [...] Gnostics
past and present sought answers not in the course of outward human events, but
in knowledge of the world's beginning, of what lies above and beyond the world,
and of the secret places of the human soul. To all this the mythologists spoke,
and they acquired large and loyal followings.
According to Ellwood, the mythologists believed in gnosticism's
basic doctrines (even if in a secularized form). Ellwood also believes that
Romanticism, which stimulated the modern study of mythology, strongly
influenced the mythologists. Because Romantics stress that emotion and
imagination have the same dignity as reason, Ellwood argues, they tend to think
political truth "is known less by rational considerations than by its
capacity to fire the passions" and, therefore, that political truth is
"very apt to be found [...] in the distant past".
As modern Gnostics, Ellwood argues, the three mythologists felt
alienated from the surrounding modern world. As scholars, they knew of
primordial societies that had operated differently from modern ones. And as
people influenced by Romanticism, they saw myths as a saving gnosis that
offered "avenues of eternal return to simpler primordial ages when the
values that rule the world were forged".
In addition, Ellwood identifies Eliade's personal sense of
nostalgia as a source for his interest in, or even his theories about,
traditional societies. He cites Eliade himself claiming to desire an
"eternal return" like that by which traditional man returns to the
mythical paradise: "My essential preoccupation is precisely the means of
escaping History, of saving myself through symbol, myth, rite,
archetypes".
In Ellwood's view, Eliade's nostalgia was only enhanced by his
exile from Romania: "In later years Eliade felt about his own Romanian past
as did primal folk about mythic time. He was drawn back to it, yet he knew he
could not live there, and that all was not well with it."
He suggests that this nostalgia, along with Eliade's sense that
"exile is among the profoundest metaphors for all human life", influenced
Eliade's theories. Ellwood sees evidence of this in Eliade's concept of the
"Terror of history" from which modern man is no longer shielded In
this concept, Ellwood sees an "element of nostalgia" for earlier
times "when the sacred was strong and the terror of history had barely
raised its head".
Criticism
of Eliade's scholarship
Overgeneralization
Eliade cites a wide variety of myths and rituals to support his
theories. However, he has been accused of making over-generalizations: many
scholars think he lacks sufficient evidence to put forth his ideas as
universal, or even general, principles of religious thought. According to one
scholar, "Eliade may have been the most popular and influential
contemporary historian of religion", but "many, if not most,
specialists in anthropology, sociology, and even history of religions have
either ignored or quickly dismissed" Eliade's works.
The classicist G. S. Kirk criticizes Eliade's insistence that
Australian Aborigines and ancient Mesopotamians had concepts of
"being", "non-being", "real", and
"becoming", although they lacked words for them.
Kirk also believes that Eliade overextends his theories: for
example, Eliade claims that the modern myth of the "noble savage"
results from the religious tendency to idealize the primordial, mythical age.
According to Kirk, "such extravagances, together with a
marked repetitiousness, have made Eliade unpopular with many anthropologists
and sociologists". In Kirk's view, Eliade derived his theory of eternal
return from the functions of Australian Aboriginal mythology and then proceeded
to apply the theory to other mythologies to which it did not apply. For
example, Kirk argues that the eternal return does not accurately describe the
functions of Native American or Greek mythology.
Kirk concludes, "Eliade's idea is a valuable perception
about certain myths, not a guide to the proper understanding of all of
them".
Even Wendy Doniger, Eliade's successor at the University of
Chicago, claims (in an introduction to Eliade's own Shamanism) that the
eternal return does not apply to all myths and rituals, although it may apply
to many of them.
However, although Doniger agrees that Eliade made
over-generalizations, she notes that his willingness to "argue boldly for
universals" allowed him to see patterns "that spanned the entire
globe and the whole of human history".
Whether they were true or not, she argues, Eliade's theories are
still useful "as starting points for the comparative study of
religion". She also argues that Eliade's theories have been able to
accommodate "new data to which Eliade did not have access".
Lack of empirical support
Several researchers have criticized Eliade's work as having no
empirical support. Thus, he is said to have "failed to provide an adequate
methodology for the history of religions and to establish this discipline as an
empirical science", though the same critics admit that "the history
of religions should not aim at being an empirical science anyway".
Specifically, his claim that the sacred is a structure of human
consciousness is distrusted as not being empirically provable: "no one has
yet turned up the basic category sacred". Also, there has been
mention of his tendency to ignore the social aspects of religion.
Anthropologist Alice Kehoe is highly critical of Eliade's work
on Shamanism, namely because he was not an anthropologist but a historian.
She contends that Eliade never did any field work or contacted
any indigenous groups that practiced Shamanism, and that his work was
synthesized from various sources without being supported by direct field
research.
In contrast, Professor Kees W. Bolle of the University of
California, Los Angeles argues that "Professor Eliade's approach, in all
his works, is empirical":
Bolle sets Eliade apart for what he sees as Eliade's
particularly close "attention to the various particular motifs" of
different myths. French researcher Daniel Dubuisson places doubt on Eliade's
scholarship and its scientific character, citing the Romanian academic's
alleged refusal to accept the treatment of religions in their historical and
cultural context, and proposing that Eliade's notion of hierophany refers to the actual existence of a supernatural level.
Ronald Inden, a historian of India and University of Chicago
professor, criticized Mircea Eliade, alongside other intellectual figures (Carl
Jung and Joseph Campell among them), for encouraging a "romantic
view" of Hinduism. He argued that their approach to the subject relied
mainly on an Orientalist approach, and made Hinduism seem like "a private
realm of the imagination and the religious which modern, Western man lacks but
needs.
Selected and heavily edited towards religious views from
Wikipedia
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You have spent much of the
afternoon and evening reading over and editing the above articles for this
post. In the process you can see these ideas and concepts throughout (between
the lines) in all the Merlyn books as well as Soki's Choice. You did not
realize how much the reading of The Sacred and the Profane has been
accepted by your heartansoulanmind. - Amorella
2058 hours. No argument with me on this. I am amazed that this appears
so. As I re-read all this flowers of personal thought popped into view. I don't
know what to say only that I am glad I have written these notes over the years
and have them out there if for no other reason than to say -- these are my
thought based on the lifetime of reading, study and personal feelings about how
life is at least for me. Life is a personal revelation.
Post. - Amorella
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