23 December 2017

Notes - the concept / setting up the dialogue



         Mid-afternoon. You are in  the cafe bar at Barnes and Noble near Fields-Ertel Road after a late lunch at nearby Potbelly's. You stopped at King's Performance as it was on the way; however, the Clarity Plug In will not be available for inspection for a couple more weeks. Carol is looking for a new novel as she has not used her yearly credit yet. - Amorella      

         1431 hours. I wish I had had the brains and talent to have written Milton's Paradise Lost.

         Where did that pop up from, boy? - Amorella

         1434 hours. You tell me, Amorella. I was thinking about something else but the wish is what I wrote.

         Now you are thinking it is an old fashioned sin to have had such a wish. - Amorella

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Envy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Envy (from Latin invidia) is an emotion which "occurs when a person lacks another's superior quality, achievement, or possession and either desires it or wishes that the other lacked it".

Bertrand Russell said that envy was one of the most potent causes of unhappiness. Not only is the envious person rendered unhappy by his or her envy, Russell explained, but that person also wishes to inflict misfortune on others. Although envy is generally seen as something negative, Russell also believed that envy was a driving force behind the movement towards democracy and must be endured to achieve a more just social system. However, psychologists have recently suggested that there may be two types of envy: malicious envy and benign envy—malicious envy being proposed as a sick force that ruins a person and his/her mind and causes the envious person to blindly want the "hero" to suffer; on the other hand, benign envy being proposed as a type of positive motivational force that causes the person to aspire to be as good as the "hero"—but only if benign envy is used in a right way. Envy and gloating have parallel structures as emotions.

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         1451 hours. I quickly discovered that my envy is benign envy. I certainly would not wish that Milton did not write Paradise Lost. However, my conflict would be that would definitely not wish that I could write as well as Milton, yet, alas, that is exactly what I wished for. On another note, I take humor is seeing that envy and gloating have parallel structures as emotion. -- I don't see why human-like emotions cannot be programmed into machines along with reason and a parallel mathematical equation to take into account heart and mind (moral) thinking; perhaps not now, but later, at least the rudiments of morally factored decision making.

         At least you left the 'soul' equation out. - Amorella

         1501 hours. I am thinking solely of a program to view potential decisions a person or a culture might make under a given set of circumstances, something better than an educated guess.

         Your thinking has jumped to delineating the soul since you don't know what it is, not the composition but the use.

         1509 hours. I have always been interested in such esoteric matters that have no practical use, at least from my perspective.

         As a reminder let's go to Wikipedia for a definition (even though you have listed it earlier in this many-yeared blog.) --Amorella

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Soul
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In many religious, philosophical and mythological traditions, there is a belief in the incorporeal essence of a living being called the soul.

Soul or psyche (Greek: "psyühē", of "psychein", "to breathe") are the mental abilities of a living being: reason, character, feeling, consciousness, memory, perception, thinking, etc.

Depending on the philosophical system, a soul can either be mortal or immortal. In Judeo-Christianity, only human beings have immortal souls (although immortality is disputed within Judaism and may have been influenced by Plato, and in Eastern Orthodox Christianity the soul is said to be immortal by grace, but not nature). For example, the Catholic theologian Thomas Aquinas attributed "soul" (anima) to all organisms but argued that only human souls are immortal. Other religions (most notably Hinduism and Jainism) hold that all biological organisms have souls ( atman) and a 'vital principle' (p rana), as did Aristotle. Some teach that even non-biological entities (such as rivers and mountains) possess souls. The latter belief is called animism.

Greek philosophers, such as Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, understood that the soul (ψυχή ˆpsuche) must have a logical faculty, the exercise of which was the most divine of human actions. At his defense trial, Socrates even summarized his teaching as nothing other than an exhortation for his fellow Athenians to excel in matters of the psyche since all bodily goods are dependent on such excellence (Apology 30a–b).

Anima mundi is the concept of a "world soul" connecting all living organisms on planet Earth.

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         You stopped at Graeter's (Carol's suggestion) and you have since been waiting for Carol at Kroger's on Mason-Montgomery Road (cooking at Kim's tomorrow afternoon). - Amorella

         1618 hours. I like the Eastern Orthodox Christianity stating that the soul is said to be immortal by grace, but not nature. I would like to hear a discussion on that topic. That's of added peak interest to me. I can understand and have sympathy for both points of view.
                                                                                                                               
         Why don't we see what your heartansoulanmind has decided on the topic?

         1613 hours. I did not know we could do that. I assume this is an unconscious decision since I have not made up my mind which is closer to my sense of self -- 'Is the soul granted immortality by grace or is immortality its innate nature?'

         You are home, groceries are unpacked. If you go out again you are wearing a coat, the wind has picked up and the temperature has dropped to barely above freezing with snow flurries earlier. - Amorella

         1644 hours. Have I made an unconscious decision as to the soul and its immortality?

         You have, but this is to be labelled an informal argument and I, the Amorella, will construct it to fit within that parameter, as it were, of a human spirit's argument, that is, if the spirit were no longer shackled to the physical body. It is not the matter of legalize or formal argument earthly argument. Assume you are a freed human spirit, and dead, in the usual sense of things. - Amorella

         1651 hours. Wow. This is getting interesting. I like the concept. Who is the witness, that is if you are doing the construction?

         An Angel sitting in the audience. This is a construction set similar to your favorite play, Our Town. We will script this off stage then drop it in today's or tomorrow's post. I will measure the three characters: (your) Heart, Mind, and Soul. You are watching but are captured in the empty space between the Angel and myself playing the parts. Your heartansoulanmind will be directing. Do you have any questions? - Amorella

         1701 hours. Not at the moment.

         Post. - Amorella

         1703 hours. I really like this concept, but it is somewhat scary to think on; for one, I will not know if this is fiction or non-fiction.

         Neither will anyone else, boy. Take a break. - Amorella


        You and Carol each had a light supper of homemade soup and half a bagel; then after watching ABC News you drove to Kroger's to pick up a gallon of milk forgotten on the earlier trip. Before supper, when taking your evening meds you got up from the dining room chair and pulled the muscle in your upper left thigh. Sharp pains have somewhat subsided after taking a doctor prescribed cyclobenzaprine HCL tablet (Flexeril). The tablet does make you sleepy however.

         2016 hours. I am sitting in the black lounger ready for bed and don't feel ready to tackle this new theatrical assignment presently. I am intrigued though. I have no imagination as to what the script is that will flow from my fingertips to keys.

         Remember, we will work on this in a new document with the working title: "Dialogue 2017". - Amorella

         2027 hours. Let's go set it up.

         Post. - Amorella


2105 hours. Here is an initial draft of the formal setup of Dialogue 2017.

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"Dialogue 2017"

This is a short philosophical dialogue
from a free-of-body unnamed human spirit.

This spirit is made up of an individual's heart and mind
which is held safely intact within an immortal soul.

The Questions:

"Is our soul granted immortality by grace?
or
Is our soul's immortality innate by nature?"

The Audience is Composed of a nearby Higher Order Angel
and you, the Living Reader

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         Post. - Amorella

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