Up at mid-morning. Breakfast with Carol and the Sunday comics with Meet the Press (and Vice President Biden) on in the background.
I am less independent and off base with politics and thus more cynical these days.
You mean it the other way around, orndorff.
Yes, of course, I am more cynical and thus off base with politics these days. We are caught in a loop of logic. It is the media’s device to show controversy (more talk) wherever it can to promote more people to listen and make judgments, which it does very well. Democracy waves its hand both hello and good-bye at the same time this way. Everyone has a choice and everyone is equal in being able to shout mostly anything to the crowd whether the crowd wants or needs to hear it at all. I’m leaning ‘Mark Twain’ when it comes to politics – in a world where nature changes everything but the basic elements of politics and religion – everything but what some humans use to promote power or knowledge over others who are less egocentric – politics and religion support the easiest means to the ends of power and singular domination one way or the other. Democracy or otherwise, someone or some cause always ends on top for a few minutes to a lifetime. Thank goodness for compromise, reason, empathy, compassion, balance, study and understanding. We have survived, the species has survived another generation. Trust and security – the species is haunted by both. And, before you comment, Amorella, at least in here my soap-boxing is quiet.
Anticipation. Like this morning. You still are not sick with the stomach flu. Such bragging and irony in your remarks in yesterday’s blog. “I didn’t get sick.” A statement written in the actual tone not of bragging, but gallows humor instead. Sometimes gallows humor is off base, orndorff, in other words, like generalities about politics and religion, people find themselves stuck in their own private thoughts and words and when those privacies are made public – well, many would just as soon not deal with it. With that, I am back where I belong, in a blog and in bound or unbound sheets of paper. It is a human plight, boy, and acceptance is as important as the actually fact as far as the species is concerned. Lack of acceptance is lack of maturity, or should I say, lack of the ability to survive. Humility will do you well to remember, boy. – Amorella.
I don’t have anything else to say.
Late afternoon and you find yourself at the Kroger lot on Tylersville while Carol shops for essentials such as milk and fruit. You both spent the early afternoon catching up on three new favorite shows: NCIS, Castle, and CSI-NY.
Pleasant and quiet afternoon, quite enjoyable. Kroger’s is really, really busy. I’m not sure why. Christmas is a week away. There are so many football games on this time of year – thought there would be fewer here.
The photo of the red ring it is noted is a work of science and art, what do you have to say about that, old man.
I would agree though is the art the natural art of the ring or the art of the photographer? Nature is an art form. Natural settings can be art forms, but what does this have to do with time as matter? I think of time as a function not a form such as any natural setting, even the red ring which is captured by the photograph.
If the form is captured then time is therefore absent.
The image is captured but the image, the form, the photograph, is still subject to the effects of time. Strangely perhaps, but this reminds me of those who living many years ago who thought the camera stole their soul. About the only things that come it mind about time is that it is a relative and somewhat subjective condition as far as human beings are concerned, and that time appears to move only in one direction. It cannot exist without matter, but it is not matter. Time changes the appearance of matter as anyone with a mirror can verify consciously verify.
You said matter cannot exist without time. Does ‘have memory’ prove time exists?
Rather odd way of putting it, but I suppose it does as its function is to store passed experiences, I assume, for individual survival, but not for species, species survival depends, in my way of thinking anyway, on genetics and the elements of evolution for physical change. What does this have to do with time, matter, and the image of the red ring?
Without memory does time exist?
Yes, of course, without human beings at all, time would still exist.
Without consciousness would time exist?
I do not know.
Would time exist for the Dead?
Without consciousness time would not exist, but the human sense of time as a conditional would exist as long as physical bodies are in motion whether we are in motion or not.
Nature is, therefore, not contingent on the human condition.
Of course not. How could anyone think it is.
We are from Nature not the other way around.
Yet nouns suggest it is the other way round. By the naming of things the suggestion is implied, that human beings control nature.
The second law of thermodynamics suggests your statement is not true. All matter breaks down, time is implied in the ‘breaking of things down’. Where is this going, Amorella. It seems a rather silly exercise in order to have something to say when nothing needs to be said.
I suggest you think on this, orndorff, If politics is as nature is religion as time?
You cannot compare unlike things.
You compare the very two in this blog, earlier you say both are unchanging in a changing world. You imply human behavior is unchanging in a changing, evolutionary world.
The naming of parts is this what that is about? I am reminded of a famous poem of that title.
“NAMING OF PARTS”
By Henry Reed
To-day we have naming of parts. Yesterday,
We had daily cleaning. And to-morrow morning,
We shall have what to do after firing. But to-day,
To-day we have naming of parts. Japonica
Glistens like coral in all of the neighboring gardens,
And to-day we have naming of parts.
This is the lower sling swivel. And this
Is the upper sling swivel, whose use you will see,
When you are given your slings. And this is the piling swivel,
Which in your case you have not got. The branches
Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
Which in our case we have not got.
This is the safety-catch, which is always released
With an easy flick of the thumb. And please do not let me
See anyone using his finger. You can do it quite easy
If you have any strength in your thumb. The blossoms
Are fragile and motionless, never letting anyone see
Any of them using their finger.
And this you can see is the bolt. The purpose of this
Is to open the breech, as you see. We can slide it
Rapidly backwards and forwards: we call this
Easing the spring. And rapidly backwards and forwards
The early bees are assaulting and fumbling the flowers:
They call it easing the Spring.
They call it easing the Spring: it is perfectly easy
If you have any strength in your thumb: like the bolt,
And the breech, and the cocking-piece, and the point of balance,
Which in our case we have not got; and the almond-blossom
Silent in all of the gardens and the bees going backwards and forwards,
For to-day we have naming of parts.
From: www.solearabiantree.net/namingofparts/namingofparts.html
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No, old man, it is about time and how it is matter. Post. – Amorella. The red ring floats in the image from the Hubble.
This is a true statement in its grammar relative to the minds of human beings.
Are you suggesting the human mind is as relative as time?
Are you?
I really do not know. I don't even know if this makes sense.
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