12 September 2015

Notes - constructing a message / good questions on aliens or angels

         Late afternoon. You are at Kroger’s on Tylersville after a Graeter’s kids’ cup treat. You have had a busy day of errands. You did your forty minutes of exercises. Lunch at Penn Station then you drove into Kenwood to look at the toy store for science-learning toys for Owen and Brennan but found nothing suitable. – Amorella

         1658 hours. I wanted to get Owen a simple hobby kit so he could make a radio and/or light and/or computer circuitry. Kits are available for seven year olds and he is half way to being six – I think it’s okay for a Christmas present, but then, what to get Brennan who is half way to four as far as a science orientation kit? I don’t know what his interests are yet.

         You are home. The day is dark, cool and wet with sprinkles. Carol says it looks like winter, which it does. – Amorella

         1753 hours. I just found this on BBC. It is from a few days ago.

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BBC Science & Environment

“UK team plans 'unsent letter' to aliens”
By Jonathan Webb

Science reporter, BBC News, Bradford
10 September 2015

A network of UK researchers has decided to compose a message to aliens - but they are divided over whether such a message should be sent into space.

The group will enter the Breakthrough Message contest, which offers a $1m prize for creating a digital missive that represents human civilisation.

That prize accompanies a new effort to accelerate the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence (Seti).

Experts have argued for decades about the wisdom of broadcasting into space.

Listening out for aliens is one thing, but trying to contact them raises myriad concerns about what happens when civilisations collide.
"We did a show of hands and we were perfectly evenly split," said Dr Anders Sandberg, speaking to journalists at the British Science Festival in Bradford.

Dr Sandberg, a philosopher from the Future of Humanity Institute at the University of Oxford, found himself voting twice.

"I'm a typical philosophy department guy. I raised my hand in both cases and they were all laughing at me."

But the group settled firmly in favour of composing a message, even if it might never leave the planet.

"What we could agree on was that it was worthwhile and important to try to devise that message, so that we can reach the best possible version," Dr Sandberg said.

He and three other UKSRN members have formed a working group to "thrash out the basics" of how their message might be composed and what it might contain.

For example, they might draft two suggestions: one using pictures, and one using more abstract content such as language or mathematics.

Other than its $1m (£0.65m) spoils, the details of the Breakthrough Message prize, funded by tech billionaire Yuri Milner, are yet to be announced. But the competition is open to anyone.

"There's a fair chance that we'll get beaten by a schoolgirl somewhere, and in that case more power to her!" Dr Sandberg said.

If the British team's bid is successful, Dr Sandberg said they would plough the prize money back into Seti research, which has historically struggled for funding and credibility in the UK.

"We would use it to build up a slightly bigger Seti research community in the UK, because this has never really been funded. The giggle factor is pretty high."

Intergalactic advice?

Whoever wins the prize, Breakthrough Initiatives have pledged not to transmit the message until a "wide-ranging debate" about the risks and rewards has taken place.

"It seems a bit silly in a sense, this prize for a message that they promise not to send," Dr Sandberg said. "But on the other hand, from a scientific perspective, it's a really interesting question: how do you construct a message that an alien intelligence could receive?"

Dr Jill Stuart, who studies space law and policy at the London School of Economics, is not a member of the UKSRN but welcomed the group's decision to draft an interstellar introduction.

She strongly supports the notion of announcing humanity's presence in the cosmos.

"I'm very explicitly in favour," Dr Stuart said, "not only because I think it's worth trying to contact them, but because of what I think it makes us do - reflecting back on ourselves, building a potential regime for how we could communicate, and so on."

But many researchers are much more wary about hitting "send", for various reasons - and these are arguments Dr Sandberg has heard many times.

"The most naive one would be that aliens will come and eat us or invade us," he said. "That is probably not very likely. But a more sophisticated version is that we have seen what happens when more advanced civilisations encounter less advanced ones."

On the other hand, we might learn something important.

"We have a lot of these uncertainties, but we also know that our own civilisation is in a fair bit of trouble. We face some pretty big threats.

"That means it might be a good idea to gamble, and hope there is someone slightly older and wiser out there. If aliens told us something about how to handle our climate, or artificial intelligence, we might want to listen."

Selected and edited from -- http://www.bbcDOTcom/news/science-environment-34211549

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         This is your kind of article, boy; one that strikes your wonderment without being utterly fantastic. – Amorella

         1758 hours. I do like the question presented in the article:

It's a really interesting question: how do you construct a message that an alien intelligence could receive?

Dr Anders Sandberg, University of Oxford;

         and, turning it around, it would be equally difficult for an alien intelligence to conduct such a message for us. (1800)        


         Post. - Amorella        


         Evening. You watched NBC News then a rerun of “Bones”. Doug sent you a recent article about a supposed UFO flying too close to a landing Ryanair plane. Here is a similar article from British news that you found online. Doug's article is mostly video.

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WATCH: Is this the moment UFO almost CRASHED INTO Ryanair jet?

THIS is the moment passengers claim a Ryanair flight had to take emergency evasive action to avoid crashing into a UFO.

By NICK GUTTERIDGE
07:40, Mon, Sep 7, 2015 | UPDATED: 15:44, Tue, Sep 8, 2015

Footage taken on board the Boeing 737 appears to show a small black object shooting inches past the plane's wing at high speed, leaving a trail of dark smoke in its wake.  

The passenger who filmed the supposed close encounter said the pilot had to bank sharply to avoid the unidentified craft, which was described as "hostile". 

The clip, said to have been shot aboard a Ryanair flight from Holland to Spain, was uploaded to YouTube.

It was published by the Lions Ground UFO group, whose member Heathcliff said: "A Dutch passenger captured UFO on video while on board the Ryanair airbus Netherlands (Eindhoven), heading to Spain.

"Coincidentally, the passenger was recording because she enjoyed the view. After four minutes the recording of this UFO event happened.

"The engines made a lot of noise and the pilot made suddenly a sharp manoeuvre. The UFO endangered the aircraft. A lot of panic was on that plane."

The conspiracy theorist claimed that the UFO was "hostile" and that it forced the plane to take evasive manoeuvres.

He also rubbished speculation that the object may have been a bird, saying it was travelling too fast. 

The clip has been viewed more than 100,000 times since being uploaded Tuesday.

Selected and edited from -- http://www.express.coDOTuk/news/science/603417/proof-alien-life-moment-UFO-almost-crashed-into-Ryanair-jet

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       2144 hours. Over the years Doug and I have shared some UFO reports. Fact or fiction? Some appear to have been real events. It will be interesting to see what comes of this one. If there are real aliens, and this is my point, what do we do? What can we learn? I have for a long time thought the same thing about angels. For the same reasons. What do we do? What can we learn? I think of both extraterrestrial aliens and angels in a similar way. They are both in the human imaginary landscape. Artists have drawn and painted both. Personally, I don’t think I would know the difference if each took on a seemingly physical appearance. Each ‘species as it were’ would take on a ‘meaning’ in my mind and perhaps in my heart and soul too. What meaning would the angel take on from witnessing me? Would this meaning be true, that is would I agree with its meaning of ‘being human’? Just because we already have a ‘set general concept’ of both 'concept-of-species' in our vocabularies, would the alien agree with our definition of what it is? Would an angel agree with our concept of what an angel is? (2157)

         You love that Doug shares all kinds of stories with you. But the two stories mentioned in today’s blog show both an intellectual and an imaginary interest. You had some apprehension on sharing the UFO story because of fear of ridicule. However, the importance in sharing from my perspective is to show evidence on how you think about such topics. If people would want to ridicule others because of how they think, what does this show about human behavior? What does this show about the purpose of human culture, any culture? Are the so called ‘seven deadly sins’ based first on fear of existing, of ‘being’ alive? What can be done about this? How can human beings grow away from this and still be human? Is this the kind of questioning aliens or angels would have among themselves when considering sending messages to human beings? Post. – Amorella

         2211 hours. These are good questions, Amorella. These are strangely good questions that I don’t think I would have considered them in context before tonight. 


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